Speculation: Ondrej Palat and Tyler Johnson next contracts

[Todd1a]

Where in that article does it say that?

It says expect palat's avv to be between 5.5 to 6.5 avv . 6 or 6.5 would be terrible.

 

[Todd1a]

Where in that article does it say that?

snap i posted the wrong link i'll post the right one. http://boltsbythebay.com/2017/07/12/tampa-bay-lightning-free-agency-analysis-tyler-johnson-contract/

 

[Major4Boarding]

snap i posted the wrong link i'll post the right one. http://boltsbythebay.com/2017/07/12/tampa-bay-lightning-free-agency-analysis-tyler-johnson-contract/

Based on the Johnson deal, we’re expecting the Tampa Bay Lightning to sign Palat to a similar deal, in terms of length, with a slightly higher price tag. Look for the announcement of a deal between $6.5 and $5.5 million AAV over a term of five to seven years to be announced in the next few weeks.

Did Eklund write this? Good Lord!

I can see $5M, $5.5M at max but $6.5M???

 

[Sky04]

6.5m??? that would be terrible.

 

[Todd1a]

Did Eklund write this? Good Lord!

I can see $5M, $5.5M at max but $6.5M???

anything over 5.5 for palat would be a huge mistake! 5.5 should be yzerman's max i agree!

 

[Todd1a]

6.5m??? that would be terrible.

I would not even like 6 avv

 

[Todd1a]

Did Eklund write this? Good Lord!

I can see $5M, $5.5M at max but $6.5M???

lol it was not eklund lol but if 6.5 is what palat want's then we won't see yzerman agree to that lol

 

[Leonardo87]

Did Eklund write this? Good Lord!

I can see $5M, $5.5M at max but $6.5M???

Palat would be traded before Yzerman even bends close to that. If anything, see Palat getting between Killorn and Johnson money for 7 years. It will most likely be 7 years. If I were to guess. 4.85 Million for 7 years.

 

[Todd1a]

Palat would be traded before Yzerman even bends close to that. If anything, see Palat getting between Killorn and Johnson money for 7 years. It will most likely be 7 years. If I were to guess. 4.85 Million for 7 years.

I most likely see yzerman doing 5 avv or 5.25 avv for a 7 year term

 

[The Macho King]

snap i posted the wrong link i'll post the right one. http://boltsbythebay.com/2017/07/12/tampa-bay-lightning-free-agency-analysis-tyler-johnson-contract/

This guy seems more like a rando on HF than anyone with connections in the org.

 

[Todd1a]

This guy seems more like a rando on HF than anyone with connections in the org.

Hopefully

 

[Flat Ronnie]

This guy seems more like a rando on HF than anyone with connections in the org.

Not even HF posters are that stupid.

 

[LTIR Trickery]

They're just rando fans, no connections. Hilarious too.

EDIT: Wouldn't be surprised if Palats deal is done too, I think he is still in Europe/Ibiza/etc.

 

[CupsOverCash]

I hope it's 4.5 for 8 years. That puts him at 1 mil more than Johnson for a year longer too. It would also leave us with 4 mil in cap space left. Some room to make a move at the deadline or before the season starts.

 

[Rschmitz]

4.85x7

 

[Leonardo87]

4.85x7

Stop copying me.

 

[HoseEmDown]

Stop copying me.

Clearly you read the Johnson thread and ripped that off from me.

 

[Rschmitz]

now now boys, I'm pretty sure I said it one page ago

 

[Todd1a]

They're just rando fans, no connections. Hilarious too.

EDIT: Wouldn't be surprised if Palats deal is done too, I think he is still in Europe/Ibiza/etc.

No he was in the states at Norfolk this past weekend for the Calder cup reunion with Johnson and cooper there .

 

[Todd1a]

I hope it's 4.5 for 8 years. That puts him at 1 mil more than Johnson for a year longer too. It would also leave us with 4 mil in cap space left. Some room to make a move at the deadline or before the season starts.

There is no way palat signs for under 5 per year avv in my opinion! He could sign a one year deal and get at least 6 per year as a Ufa next year.

 

[Rschmitz]

There is no way palat signs for under 5 per year avv in my opinion! He could sign a one year deal and get at least 6 per year as a Ufa next year.

And suffer an injury and retire leaving millions on the table

 

[Iceman]

He'll probably get the same deal as Johnson. Now that Johnson signed his deal, Palat will point to that and expect to get the same deal.

 

[LightningStrikes]

Let's take a look at their production. Does Palat deserve the same deal as TJ or something worse/better:

(Source: www.hockey-reference.com - great for comparing players btw)


It's crazy how they almost played the exact same number of games in their career - given that both missed a chunk of games due to injuries.
Johnson has him beat in goal scoring. In the regular season Palat has produced a couple more points though. Palat's +/- is a lot higher though (difference: +28) which would suggest Palat's the better defensive player (not shocking either).
Johnson has a tremendous playoff record though. He has a 0.89 point average per playoff game, Palat's 0.63. Johnson also scored 7 more goals in just 1 more game.


Regular season is more or less a wash, Johnson is the goal scorer, Palat the responsible two-way player with slightly more points due to more assists.
Playoff Johnson is a different beast. Palat's been solid but Johnson had two crazy runs.

What do you think?

 

[Todd1a]

And suffer an injury and retire leaving millions on the table

We thought that with stamkos and he waited it out. With a weak FA market Palat being in there he would get over payed by some team big time. I think he will resign long term in tampa but he won't accept a low ball offer by yzerman. he will at least get term and 5 avv or above.

 

[CupsOverCash]

We thought that with stamkos and he waited it out. With a weak FA market Palat being in there he would get over payed by some team big time. I think he will resign long term in tampa but he won't accept a low ball offer by yzerman. he will at least get term and 5 avv or above.

I think it will be around 5. No lower than 4.5 and no higher than 5.5. I think it's already done. Just working out some finer details. Johnson said his was done for a while just needed smaller details worked out.