News Article: Oliwer Kaski signed

[wingfan]

He is the same size as Dekeyser who looks like a weakling out there.

Dekeyser also has nothing else going for him, period. If this kid's offensive upside translates to North America and the NHL that's already better than Dekeyser.

 

[lilidk]

There are conflicting numbers about his size. He looks kind of soft and Finland coach kind of not trust him, but we don't know why , he could be not 100%, or something else. His hockey IQ through the roof, good skater. About his physicality , great #5 wasn't physical to in the different times. He will probably compete with Cholowski for the NHL spot. Later one of them we can trade in the future

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

Why wasn't he drafted? Anyone know? And everyone penciling him into the lineup, have any of you actually seen him play a FEW games (not just one which most haven't even seen that..)

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

I know nothing about the kid but can't hurt to have another right-handed prospect for defense.

But yeah, the Wings need to get Kaski on the Jimmy Howard offseason diet. Dekeyser too.

 

[Lil Sebastian Cossa]

There are conflicting numbers about his size. He looks kind of soft and Finland coach kind of not trust him, but we don't know why , he could be not 100%, or something else. His hockey IQ through the roof, good skater. About his physicality , great #5 wasn't physical to in the different times. He will probably compete with Cholowski for the NHL spot. Later one of them we can trade in the future

Only complaint.. you can't use "Lidstrom wasn't physical" as a reasoning for why it's okay for another guy to not be. Nick's legs were tree trunks. Kind of like how people may have ever said that Zetterberg and Datsyuk were soft. They weren't out there trying to crush people but they were anything but soft.

And also, Lidstrom was like the highest hockey IQ player to ever play in the league. He didn't need to be overwhelming in strength, speed, whatever, because he could derail plays with a slight flick of the wrist stick lift because he was in perfect position.

 

[Ezekial]

Why wasn't he drafted? Anyone know? And everyone penciling him into the lineup, have any of you actually seen him play a FEW games (not just one which most haven't even seen that..)

Why wasn't Panarin drafted? Anyone know?

Development isn't linear.

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

Why wasn't Panarin drafted? Anyone know?

Development isn't linear.

Ok we have the first question covered. Thanks, what about the more important one's no one answered....

 

[Hen Kolland]

Ok we have the first question covered. Thanks, what about the more important one's no one answered....

From what I've read, Kaski is a converted forward, a la Brent Burns. He was an undersized, winger growing up, and was a late bloomer physically. Kind of a hard sell to teams if you're talking about someone diminutive in stature and learning a new position.

Pretty easy concept to grasp, not everyone is an appealing prospect in their draft season, and sometimes you find a gem. Kind of like the undrafted defenseman who is probably going to win the Norris Trophy this year, Mark Giordano.

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

From what I've read, Kaski is a converted forward, a la Brent Burns. He was an undersized, winger growing up, and was a late bloomer physically. Kind of a hard sell to teams if you're talking about someone diminutive in stature and learning a new position.

Pretty easy concept to grasp, not everyone is an appealing prospect in their draft season, and sometimes you find a gem. Kind of like the undrafted defenseman who is probably going to win the Norris Trophy this year, Mark Giordano.

Yes I agree players can bloom later. I was mainly referring to everyone assuming he is so good and giving him a roster spot with zero NHL games over Daley and Bowey. And I questioned had anyone actually watched him play other than golden helmet highlights reels lol. As for Giordano he is definitely a late bloomer but I doubt he wins the Norris even though he was nominated.

 

[Hen Kolland]

Yes I agree players can bloom later. I was mainly referring to everyone assuming he is so good and giving him a roster spot with zero NHL games over Daley and Bowey. And I questioned had anyone actually watched him play other than golden helmet highlights reels lol. As for Giordano he is definitely a late bloomer but I doubt he wins the Norris even though he was nominated.

Look at his season and tell me he doesn’t deserve to win it.

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

Look at his season and tell me he doesn’t deserve to win it.

I have Burns and Hedman ahead of him....

As for Kaski, all his highlighted videos I've seen don't really show me what I am looking to see. Skating, defensive play, first pass, break outs. That stuff is more impressive that PP goals and cool celebrations , golden helmets lol

 

[Gniwder]

I have Burns and Hedman ahead of him....

As for Kaski, all his highlighted videos I've seen don't really show me what I am looking to see. Skating, defensive play, first pass, break outs. That stuff is more impressive that PP goals and cool celebrations , golden helmets lol

That's true with any defensive prospect, you can't really judge them without watching some games. If anyone has any links, please share.

Also, the highlights show he's got a big windup on his slapper, and I'm not sure if that's going to translate to the NHL. We've seen what happens when you take away time and space against guys with slow releases.

 

[Hen Kolland]

I have Burns and Hedman ahead of him....

As for Kaski, all his highlighted videos I've seen don't really show me what I am looking to see. Skating, defensive play, first pass, break outs. That stuff is more impressive that PP goals and cool celebrations , golden helmets lol

Funny that you would ever consider Burns an option. In fact, Giordano’s season was immensely more impressive than either of them, in my opinion.

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

That's true with any defensive prospect, you can't really judge them without watching some games. If anyone has any links, please share.

Also, the highlights show he's got a big windup on his slapper, and I'm not sure if that's going to translate to the NHL. We've seen what happens when you take away time and space against guys with slow releases.

Pulkinen.

 

[Ezekial]

Funny that you would ever consider Burns an option. In fact, Giordano’s season was immensely more impressive than either of them, in my opinion.

Why would you want to allow less goals when you can get a defenseman with .06 more ppg?

 

[lilidk]

Why wasn't Panarin drafted? Anyone know?

Development isn't linear.

He was to slow ,could not keep up

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

I know nothing about the kid but can't hurt to have another right-handed prospect for defense.

But yeah, the Wings need to get Kaski on the Jimmy Howard offseason diet. Dekeyser too.

You want him to get fat? Howard's diet is all fast food lol.

 

[Gniwder]

You want him to get fat? Howard's diet is all fast food lol.

Not all fast food, I'm sure he drinks beer.

 

[Hen Kolland]

Why would you want to allow less goals when you can get a defenseman with .06 more ppg?

I mean I just think we’ve gotten away from what it means to be a good defenseman. I don’t consider Burns to be a good defenseman. He’s an incredible player, but he’s like an anomaly. Kind of like Quinn Hughes was in the draft for me, he is a 4th forward, he’s a rover.

Hedman fits the bill, but I struggle to give him the nod playing on THAT team and on top of that. Giordano outproduced him on offense in P/G. He controls Corsi better, logged more ice time, is less reliant on the power play, blocks more shots, takes away the puck more, and gives away the puck less.

I mean Giordano logs damn near as much time as Burns, nearly kept up with his scoring pace, starts over 10% more shifts in the D-zone, and still holds every single defensive category over Burns’ head. If he doesn’t win the Norris, it will be absolute sin.

 

[Ezekial]

He was to slow ,could not keep up

Was it really? I've never seen 09-10 Panarin skate, but I've seen 2015-2019 Panarin skate a lot and he would've had to improve a shit load to be where he is today in that department. Was he 5'11" in his draft year?

 

[ricky0034]

I mean I just think we’ve gotten away from what it means to be a good defenseman. I don’t consider Burns to be a good defenseman. He’s an incredible player, but he’s like an anomaly. Kind of like Quinn Hughes was in the draft for me, he is a 4th forward, he’s a rover.

Hedman fits the bill, but I struggle to give him the nod playing on THAT team and on top of that. Giordano outproduced him on offense in P/G. He controls Corsi better, logged more ice time, is less reliant on the power play, blocks more shots, takes away the puck more, and gives away the puck less.

I mean Giordano logs damn near as much time as Burns, nearly kept up with his scoring pace, starts over 10% more shifts in the D-zone, and still holds every single defensive category over Burns’ head. If he doesn’t win the Norris, it will be absolute sin.

I would agree that Giordano should probably win the Norris but I think people are really underestimating the offensive difference between him and Burns in this thread

not only did Burns produce at a mildly higher pace but Giordano was 5th on his own team in scoring and 25 points behind first place while Burns lead his team in scoring by 9 points

 

[lilidk]

Was it really? I've never seen 09-10 Panarin skate, but I've seen 2015-2019 Panarin skate a lot and he would've had to improve a **** load to be where he is today in that department. Was he 5'11" in his draft year?

So did Mantha and I hope Zadina

 

[Hen Kolland]

I would agree that Giordano should probably win the Norris but I think people are really underestimating the offensive difference between him and Burns in this thread

not only did Burns produce at a mildly higher pace but Giordano was 5th on his own team in scoring and 25 points behind first place while Burns lead his team in scoring by 9 points

Don’t care at all. Literally not one iota. Giordano is the most reliable defenseman on his team in all situations. Burns is not. If the people responsible for the result are voting on the league’s best defenseman, the choice is obvious.

 

[SCD]

From what I've read, Kaski is a converted forward

A converted forward, and what I have read, still learning the defensive part of his game.

So the question becomes, can he out score his mistakes?

I would be surprised if he doesn't start out in Grand Rapids.

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

DobberProspects.com describes Kaski as:

…an offensive defenseman with great size (6-3, 187). He’s a late bloomer because of late growth spurt and move from forward to defense later than what you’d normally see. Kaski has some issues in his defensive game but it’s hard to find a defenseman with his size and skating ability not to mention his great puck-skills and his biggest strength which is his shot. If you put him on the Ovechkin spot on the power play, he will score goals at any level. Kaski needs to sign with a team that is willing to use him in offensive situations and willing to look past his defensive deficiencies. Kaski was voted as the best player in the Liiga this season, so that’s the type of upside he can deliver in the right circumstances.​