I see him sign a 6 year 24 mill contract
hahahahaha good luck.
That would be great, but Hall/Eberle contracts set the trend. If he's under $5 million per year I will be shocked.
me too.
And if he gets the $6 M per year that Hall and Eberle got yet another reason to fire Tambo.
It's a new CBA. $4.5M per year for five or six years.
If he can get more, so be it. The averaged value for an RFA that gets you a 1st, 2nd and 3rd s/b right around $5M per year.
the rfa arguement is pretty weak on gagner though, hes 1 year from UFA and has arbitration rights.
no way gagner takes anything under 5M with term, and if he finishes the year leading the team in points/ppg it will be impossible to negotiate below hall/eberle, youll pretty much have to appeal to his emotions to take less.
even if he regresses to 50 points next year, he'll get 6M as a UFA after that.
My guess is 6 yrs..27.6 mill......4.6 per cap hit
not a chance.
IMHO, they HAVE TO trade Hemsky--precisely because he's been playing better lately. Yes, he has that game breaking ability, but he's got considerable flaws in his game and on this team he's a bit of a luxury commodity. But they have to be smart about it. We can't afford to lose him for picks and prospects.
what exactly do you think we'd be getting for him? another fistric?
Well if the return isn't good, then don't do it obviously.....
Hemsky is just not gonna be here longterm unfortunately. As much as we don't want to believe it, getting rid of Eberle or even Yakupov would kinda frustrate the hell out of Hall/Nuge/Schultz, if not many other young guys in the room.
I've always been a huge Hemsky fan, but he does not fit in the team's plans past next year. I personally am not trying to run him out of town, I just see the longterm gain by doing it before he gets hurt again or is not re-signed next summer.
You know what else might frustrate the hell out of them? losing for a couple more seasons because we have no top-pairing Dmen, eberle could be used to acquire a solid #2, hemsky doesn't even get you close.
what team is better:
Hemsky
Yakupov
#2 Dman
or
Eberle
Yakupov
Futures.
yes, like they overpaid for iginla.... I'm not sure the market is what you think it is. We got a 1st, Teubert and 3rd for a signed Penner. I would argue we'd get around the same for Hemmer. To me, that is a pathetic return and will only set our franchise back.
I actually would do something else. I move Eberle for a Duncan Keith/Shea Weber. I'm not saying those guys are available, but the perceived value between Eberle and Hemsky is much larger than the actual difference between the two.
Here are the premises:
1. I don't think Eberle is as good long term as he was last year. If he is a 76 point player year in, year out, I would be VERY surprised. I think he is more like the player we saw this year (minus the last two games). He has some moments, but is soft and doesn't back check as hard as he should. He also needs Hall on his line to be good. To me, that's the litmus test - a good first line player will stand out on his one and won't need a Taylor Hall to look like a star.
2. Eberle is perceived to be MUCH more valuable than Hemsky. Is the value enough for a # 1 D man? I don't know, but I definitely don't think Hemsky can net us that. So as a manager, I would move Eberle (who I argue is overvalued) to fill our biggest need.
I know this will be attacked on this board, and that we want to run Hemsky out of town. It's just not the approach I would take.
Excellent post. This is exactly what I've been trying to articulate for the last 2-3 weeks now.
Although I don't think Eberle's "average" will be how he's performing this year. He's a bit better than that. I think he'll be a 60-70 point scorer for the rest of his career. That's not much better than Hemsky, definitely not worth $6M a year, and the return he'll bring will be much better than dealing Hemsky.
I agree with these two posts, i think eberle will consistently score in the 60's, and at 6M not necessarily an overpay, but not a bargain either, and like they've said, is more of a complimentary player than the one driving his line, similar to gagner (who is only 1 year older).
i don't think you can get a #1 like keith or weber though, more of an up and coming #2 like Larson, McDonaugh, Bogosian, Kulikov.
@ people slagging Eberle lol Lets look at this guys career from junior up CHL player of the year Oilers leading scorer rookie season Oilers leading scorer 2nd Season top 20 in Nhl scoring Now this season he has struggled at times but still shows what he has first 2 seasons. Guess Avalance should move Duchene now before he regresses back to a 28 point player. Next year when he is above a ppg I will gladly bump this sheeesh
were not slagging on eberle, we like eberle, but we think he is the best chip to use to upgrade our team (D).
. The atmosphere was great tonight. Columbus got robbed IMO on the no goal. I wish the Oilers had a guy like Anisimov, He was very impressive. Great game by Hemsky (Besides that one awful turnover) and Paajarvi! Loving his game especially now that hes driving to the net. Was brutal goal tending by Khabi tonight, That goal 10 seconds in was soft. Good job on the boys for battling back.
