Proposal: Oilers paying the price.
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Not really diminishing it, Are you living in Montreal like me and watch every game and analysis ?
- he had a Sleep problem, he was feeling always tired and supposedly it was because he had constant Fatigue: Report: Canadiens' Price suffered chronic fatigue at start of season - Sportsnet.ca Now it's fixed
- He also had a pretty big injuries by the one and only Goaltender diver ; Kreider. Not sure if you know but a ripped MCL on a goaltender is pretty dangerous, At least Price stopped playing at the right time and is healed 100%.
Before those 2 thing Price won the Vezina, conference finals and
Olympics
- I have faith in Price Because of what we saw and what we know now.
- There is still a possibility for him to never come back to his former self, We will see this year.
- From the first game this year and last season, I can tell you it's day and night, Price played a fantastic Game vs the leafs.
Hmm, ok. I didn't sense any sarcasm whatsoever in your post but I'll take your word for it.
Captain Controversy
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I made this proposal based on the Oilers getting a better goalie and the Hans entering rebuild. Sorry habs you are not gonna be able to enjoy Hughes or Lafreniere if price is your goalie. It's gonna be mediocrity for the next while if there is no action to actually try and rebuild.
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Habs aren't trading Price right now, they might if he bounces back. I also don't think 10.5 is too bad for a superstar player, but the term is pretty rough. That being said, goalies do tend to play at an elite level for a longer time(Rinne, Lundqvist).
So you're admitting he has had some pretty serious injuries, but you're content to call im fully healed after one game. Interesting. I'm aware of what MCL tears do. Its difficult to come back from those 100%. Possible, but there are usually lingering effects, especially for a position where the MCL is constantly flexed with up/down motions. He's also suffered from concussions, something im intimately familiar with, as its what ended my 'career'.
To say that his fatigue issue is 'fixed' before playing a full season again seems a bit optimistic as well. Though that one seems like the easiest to come back from.
Agian, its entirely possible he returns to Vezina and Hart form. It's also possible that someone runs him again and he suffers another concussion. You have every right to think pie in the sky, and i would too if he was my goalie. But you arent getting 'pie in the sky' prices for him until he proves he's capable of it (and if he does, MTL would be silly to move him).
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No contract is untradeable. As for Price, let's see what Bob gets in free agency before everyone says that "nobody will pay that much for a goalie". The exact same thing was said about Subban.
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price won't be an issue for a long time for Montreal, will have a bunch of good ELC young players.
he might end up being an archor in a couple of years, but the cap will likely go up till that moment and goalies stays at their peak for a long time, injury as been a concern the past 2 years, but theres no sign that an 100% healthy price can perform for a long time, especially that he's a technical goalie, he does not realy rely on his reflex.
he might end up being an archor in a couple of years, but the cap will likely go up till that moment and goalies stays at their peak for a long time, injury as been a concern the past 2 years, but theres no sign that an 100% healthy price can perform for a long time, especially that he's a technical goalie, he does not realy rely on his reflex.
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oh I agree as I said he's kind of stuck now he needs a bounce back season and he's got a team in front of him that is going to be really hard to do that with
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Lucic (1 mil retained) + Sekera for Price
This is the only way Montreal can rid themselves of that contract.
This is the only way Montreal can rid themselves of that contract.
Sorry, this will be cause for great debate but elite goalies don't exist in today's NHL the way elite scorers and elite defenders do. There are far too many factors that go into their game for them to consistently bring the results expected of an elite NHLer.
This is why you NEVER pay a goaltender over $6m a year in today's salary climate. When you give a goaltender a salary like Carey Price's, you severely handcuff you're team's ability to surround him with the necessary components to build a competitive team in front of him.
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It’s fair to say, you believe Price to return to his old form this year.....perfectly fair. But then you can’t just assume the players from the other team in the offer can’t return to form either. Talbot had a bad year, as did his entire team.....especially their defence. Lucic at 6 million is a bit of a tougher one to buy, but even if he could remain as 50pt physical winger who is also fight when required and a good character guy.....he would be overpaid but not a total dump.
So we need to judge the offers by both teams the same way and realistically. Talbot & Price stand a very good chance to improve over the last years results (not sure either will be top 3 or 5 in the nhl). Lucic is a bit more of a gamble. Oilers 1st is always a good bet, plus B level prospect who is solid. I’m not trying to convince you of liking the OP, I’m just saying look at it fairly from both sides POV.
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Unless you can magically erase the majority of his term, the Habs aren't getting anything of value for Price. The term is just horrifyingly scary to any team and is likely a nonstarter unless the Habs sweeten the offer to the point of absurdity, even with the recognition that Price is a phenomenal goalie.
I’m sure he will have a bounce back season and be a good to maybe even elite goalie again but I can’t see him being the Hart winning level Price again which is how he’s paid and even for if he became an elite goalie he’s heavily paid for a guy that will be 38-39 when the contract expires
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Fair comment overall.
Personally no goalie is worth 10.5 million over that long term.....but that’s my personal POV. Habs would not get good value now as you say for Price.....at least not until he returns to world best goalie form.
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I think people believe that no goalie is worth 10.5 because Price is the only one that is paid over 10. I fully expect Bob to get a similar contract to Price. People have said the exact same thing back when Subban signed that behemoth contract. Right now, he is paid accordingly imo. I do understand why people are skeptical though, I just don't think his contract is as bad as people claim it is.
If you want to include Lucic, you'll need to add 2 more 1sts/Draisatl...
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Subban is still useful. Price is already slowing down with years remaining. It’s not even front loaded.
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Omg hahaha
I think he was actually infected with the "Notbeingagoodgoalie" disease
