Post-Game Talk: Oilers def. Canucks - 4-2 (Kuzmenko, Miller) - Thank you, Bruce

[Gstank]

I wonder if Bruce was given the option to leave earlier and why didn’t he resign when the writing on the wall.

Probably because he knew he would have problems finding another job that late in the offseason. Even by his comments today it seems like he is thinking that this maybe his last NHL head coaching job. Agewise he is getting up there and I think that there are some better young coaches who are going to be getting NHL jobs very quickly.

Bruce would make an excellent assistant coach though if he wanted to go that route

 

[arttk]

It was the exact same arguement I was having with @arttk last night. Some people just cannot take hockey out of it.

Kinda tired of that convo, don’t drag me back in

 

[PuckMunchkin]

fans should call out aquallini but hes too much of a chickenshit to even show his face unless a canuck legend was in town for a ceremony.

He absolutely uses Nuck legends like Smyl and Linden as human shields.

 

[me2]

Wow they have really destroyed this brand more in less than a year than Benning did his whole tenure absolutely shocking. Losing is one thing but people will remember that look on Bruce's face. I think this has cost them a lot of fans and loyalty in this fanbase.

Yeah but they saved 1/2 season of a coaches salary by not hiring a new coach in June.

So totally worth it. Just like not rebuilding, that sweet 2014 playoff revenue made everything that followed worthwhile.

 

[Nomobo]

Went to the game.

Absurd the attendance mix. 60/40 Oilers to Nucks fans.

But least there was some atmosphere.

And the Bruce There It Is chants after the game was over and people standing for him, was a great touch.

Had this clown show gone on much longer, at the end of March, that ratio could have been 80/20. Something had to be done but I wish it had been handled differently.
Looking forward to the Rick Tocchet era.

 

[PuckMunchkin]

Yeah but they saved 1/2 season of a coaches salary by not hiring a new coach in June.

Drance keeps saying there was a team option too, last summer.

I can't find confirmation on this anywhere.

 

[Jay26]

IMO, people in Vancouver are overreacting as usual.

GM looks for a new coach before they fire the old one - this happens a lot of times.

You can nitpick that they didn't name an interim when Tocchet was leaked, but they probably didn't want to name an interim for like 2 weeks.

Not common to see people mix emotion with rationality on this board.

A few posters on this board saying nothing to see here vs pretty much the rest of the hockey world. Hmm, I wonder who's got this right....

 

[logan5]

Had this clown show gone on much longer, at the end of March, that ratio could have been 80/20. Something had to be done but I wish it had been handled differently.
Looking forward to the Rick Tocchet era.

Hired for the tank. I'm not inspired. Either are the Canucks. No bump here.

 

[CanucksSayEh]

Oh, and this team has to find a way to jettison Miller. I defended him today but if he's one of the problems in the room then he has to go. If not, and it's just his personality, then you just hope that he sorts himself out with the help of the new coaching staff. If he does then he's obviously still a good player.

I still dont buy that there's any kind of 'rift' between groups of players in the room. It's been all media/fan driven. Bo vs JT was parroted non stop, only to be obviously bs.

There's a wide age range, life stage range and talent range on every team. Of course there's groups of friends, doesn't make them opposing cliques. You don't have to like everyone you work with, to like working with them.

They don't interact at all like they have personal beefs. Constant strong starts to games, or finishes, celebrating the little things etc. They are just heavily underperforming, and frustrated.

It's just a cliche, of loud guy vs quiet guy, young players vs old, overpaid vs underpaid. There's no reason to believe any of it, just speculation from blood thirsty hack writers on twitter.

 

[Gstank]

A few posters on this board saying nothing to see here vs pretty much the rest of the hockey world. Hmm, I wonder who's got this right....

IF this happened in a market that wasnt like Vancouver then it would have been business as usual. Which is what happens to literally every other team. Nothing would have leaked and he wouldnt have had this situation in the first place

This market is probably one of the most negative and over-reative markets in the NHL. Toronto is probably the worst though.

 

[arttk]

He absolutely uses Nuck legends like Smyl and Linden as human shields.

I do feel for Smyl but f*** Linden

 

[Nomobo]

Probably because he knew he would have problems finding another job that late in the offseason. Even by his comments today it seems like he is thinking that this maybe his last NHL head coaching job. Agewise he is getting up there and I think that there are some better young coaches who are going to be getting NHL jobs very quickly.

Bruce would make an excellent assistant coach though if he wanted to go that route

It can’t have been a financial decision surely. He’s been paid well and I imagine the stress factor in the job was huge. He’s not exactly a picture of health even taking his age into account. The limelight can be addictive, I imagine.

 

[m9]

IF this happened in a market that wasnt like Vancouver then it would have been business as usual. Which is what happens to literally every other team. Nothing would have leaked and he wouldnt have had this situation in the first place

This market is probably one of the most negative and overreative markets in the NHL. Toronto is probably the worst though.

I think it's somewhere in between. The media really went wild with this story and many of the fans were all too happy to care about something in this pathetic waste of a season.

But the end result of all that was a bizarre situation that reflects poorly on an organization that has normalized things reflecting poorly.

 

[strattonius]

IF this happened in a market that wasnt like Vancouver then it would have been business as usual. Which is what happens to literally every other team. Nothing would have leaked and he wouldnt have had this situation in the first place

This market is probably one of the most negative and over-reative markets in the NHL. Toronto is probably the worst though.

It's not even just our media stirring this story. Leafs podcasts, national broadcast and even a former player have chimed in about thenlack of respect being shown.

You are just making your own narrative up suggesting this is all an over-reaction.

Like it probably is an over-reaction but it's certainly not incorrect to call out the horrible nature of this firing.

 

[Jay26]

I still dont buy that there's any kind of 'rift' between groups of players in the room. It's been all media/fan driven. Bo vs JT was parroted non stop, only to be obviously bs.

There's a wide age range, life stage range and talent range on every team. Of course there's groups of friends, doesn't make them opposing cliques. You don't have to like everyone you work with, to like working with them.

They don't interact at all like they have personal beefs. Constant strong starts to games, or finishes, celebrating the little things etc. They are just heavily underperforming, and frustrated.

It's just a cliche, of loud guy vs quiet guy, young players vs old, overpaid vs underpaid. There's no reason to believe any of it, just speculation from blood thirsty hack writers on twitter.

I don't know man. The vibe with this team really changed after the bubble playoffs. When I say vibe, I'm not referring to the team's play on ice. I fully realize that teams can get worse hockey wise after a good season.

 

[Egghead1999]

IMO, people in Vancouver are overreacting as usual.

GM looks for a new coach before they fire the old one - this happens a lot of times.

You can nitpick that they didn't name an interim when Tocchet was leaked, but they probably didn't want to name an interim for like 2 weeks.

Not common to see people mix emotion with rationality on this board.

Don't believe it happens this way a lot. In fact, this way to fire a coach is worse than Gallant firing.

 

[Nomobo]

Hired for the tank. I'm not inspired. Either are the Canucks. No bump here.

I don’t agree. JR wasn’t enamoured with him and wants his new coach to have a say in what personnel changes need to be made so that he’s a successful as possible. It’s harsh but I understand.

 

[Jay26]

It's not even just our media stirring this story. Leafs podcasts, national broadcast and even a former player have chimed in about thenlack of respect being shown.

You are just making your own narrative up suggesting this is all an over-reaction.

Like it probably is an over-reaction but it's certainly not incorrect to call out the horrible nature of this firing.

The only actual overreaction is coming from people who somehow have a problem with people rallying behind Boudreau. That's what's so bizarre.

 

[arttk]

Don't believe it happens this way a lot. In fact, this way to fire a coach is worse than Gallant firing.

I don’t know, Gallant was way worse. Gallant was actually doing really well and they literally kicked him to the curb.

It’s not even arguable that BB deserves to be fired based on the results. The only issue is the media found out and just talked about it nonstop. Like if this wasn’t talked about everyday in every single Canucks podcast, National broadcast for the last 2 weeks, would this be a frenzy? No it would be business as usual.

 

[Egghead1999]

I don’t know, Gallant was way worse. Gallant was actually doing really well and they literally kicked him to the curb.

It’s not even arguable that BB deserves to be fired based on the results. The only issue is the media found out and just talked about it nonstop. Like if this wasn’t talked about everyday in every single Canucks podcast, National broadcast for the last 2 weeks, would this be a frenzy? No it would be business as usual.

C'mon, BB firing has little to do with the records. He has been "dead man walking" since the offseason. Did you follow any of JR's interviews?

 

[Hansen]

Might well end one of the messiest episodes in team history.

No. This for me is the Sbisa/Dorsett signing for this management group. This is a breaking point. They no longer get the benefit of the doubt, they no longer get benign patience. They need to turn this shit around and they need to walk the walk to go with the lip flapping.

By all indications, this is the beginning of yet another very messy episode in team history. I don't know how interested I am in hanging around for it.

 

[SelltheTeamFrancesco]

Yeah but they saved 1/2 season of a coaches salary by not hiring a new coach in June.

So totally worth it. Just like not rebuilding, that sweet 2014 playoff revenue made everything that followed worthwhile.

You could have saved another 1/2 season of salary by waiting till seasons end and just parting ways with Bruce. I think Aquilini really didn't want to pay another coach this season but had his hand forced by management.

 

[Canuckle1970]

It can’t have been a financial decision surely. He’s been paid well and I imagine the stress factor in the job was huge. He’s not exactly a picture of health even taking his age into account. The limelight can be addictive, I imagine.

He loves coaching and he loves the players. Bottom line.

 

[Isi]

No. This for me is the Sbisa/Dorsett signing for this management group. This is a breaking point. They no longer get the benefit of the doubt, they no longer get benign patience. They need to turn this shit around and they need to walk the walk to go with the lip flapping.

By all indications, this is the beginning of yet another very messy episode in team history. I don't know how interested I am in hanging around for it.

JT re-signing was this, tbf

 

[Spectrefire]

IF this happened in a market that wasnt like Vancouver then it would have been business as usual. Which is what happens to literally every other team. Nothing would have leaked and he wouldnt have had this situation in the first place

This market is probably one of the most negative and over-reative markets in the NHL. Toronto is probably the worst though.

Literally everyone in the hockey world: This isn't actually normal

You: tHIs IS cOMpLEteLY nORMal

Do you also go outside every sunny day and tell everyone how beautifully green the sun looks and throw a fit when they tell you it's not actually green?

Literally even non-hockey news is reporting on how bad this firing was, but no, this is all just noise drummed up by local media and literally no one else!

The Despicable Treatment Of Vancouver Canucks Coach Bruce Boudreau

It’s a case study of how not to treat an employee, let alone a very decent human being.

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