65.6% offensive zone starts. 1% different than I said.
Proposal: Oilers | Blue Jackets
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SteelCityCannon
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Good point. I'm going to start a Broberg for Olli Juolevi thread.
I think we can find a better player than Broberg with our 2nd.
Ignoring value the Oilers don't really have the opportunity that Jiricek seems to want based on his comments. They're a team that's pretty set on the powerplay. And he's not exactly a defensive stalwart at this point.
Son of Petter
Who wants to walk with Elias?
This is an all-timer. Holy hell. This offer would get beat by every team in the league in 2 seconds. If you’re gonna trade Broberg it’s gonna be for another reclamation project that plays a position of need.
ManofSteel55
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Ceci isn't someone that we need to upgrade on. His performance as a top 4 defenseman is not questionable. Is Jiricek superior? Perhaps, I haven't watched enough of him to know, but despite his reputation being a bottom pair defenseman, his performance says otherwise.
i feel like the tune out of the oilers fan base during the weak start to the season was the complete opposite. ceci (and bouch) was deemed a must go piece.
from an outsider pov it looks like he is more of a complementary player, who looks good, when the team looks good. on the other hand he can't make a difference when things turn against your team. so in my book definitely a player you could and ideally would improve on.
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HighLifeManIsHigh
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I jumped ahead a couple pages, but Oilers fans are actually saying no to this deal? Jesus Christ
Edit: and for all you guys that are gonna throw stats/advanced stats my way, fvcking save it. You guys love stats.
Edit: and for all you guys that are gonna throw stats/advanced stats my way, fvcking save it. You guys love stats.
TheNumber4
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What a beast! Matches the excitement Oilers fans have had about him this year
I understand the reply but lets not forget there are 13 year old kids on this site and they have no concept of value. Then there some like me that only watch their favourite team. It is the reason I never make offers for another team player.
This is why post my comment on most people have not clue what is happening with another team. Broberg had a meeting with Holland and they were seen shake hands after it was reported Broberg was unhappy with sitting and wanted playing time. I also think it is the reason Kulak has popped on at number 11 on the TSN trade boards. The Oilers know he is ready for the NHL.
As for value all things being equal a RD has more value than a LD. If it was me I would be more concern about Brobergs injuries . As soon as he gets any traction he seems to get injured and that has slowed his development.
therefore i gave him a similar scenario where his team would be on the losing end, so he hopefully can understand his proposal wasn't perfect. there was no personal attack or anything included.
HugeInTheShire
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I live in Alberta so I follow both Alberta teams closely as well as the Devils.
Having an extra bottom pair D in Broberg is part of it butt he reason Kulak has popped up is more to do with having no cap space than making room for Broberg.
If Holland and co. don't think Broberg is ready they won't move Kulak. So if Kulak is available that means they think Broberg IS ready. So I guess we'll see what happens.
I think the team still projects Broberg to be a 3-4 guy.
HugeInTheShire
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I think it's more about cap space and them hoping Broberg could fill in bottom pair minutes. They need the space and Kulak is the most expendable.
Even if they project him to be a LHS 3-4 guy he doesn't get you a RHS guy that projects to be a 1-2 guy.
Of course, I know that in all likelihood you aren't one of the guys that think Broberg alone gets you Jiricek but I'm just trying to get back on track lol.
I agree with you on all of these points.
The Oilers DO need an upgrade on the right side. Ceci has been okay, not bad and not great. Let's say good enough.
However if this team is going to go for it this year grabbing a really good upgrade on Ceci would be a smart move. They'd have to move his contract along with a pick or a prospect (or both) to get a guy like that.
Then a third line two way center and a back up for Skinner as insurance. Can Holland find another Ekholm type trade out there? That was a home run for the Oilers.
HugeInTheShire
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Absolutely they need an upgrade on Ceci I don't know how achievable it is in the season though.
A legit backup goalie would also be nice, nothing against Pickard but if something happens to Skinner he's not the guy I'd want to be relying on.
Haven't seen that stated anywhere else, so I'm intrigued
When you site 14 minute/game Kulak as the impossible hill for Broberg to replace, it’s probably not about Kulak.
This is the kind of my team absolutely wins and the other team gets a guy we don't even want that I have come to expect around here.
Is this people was a vote it would have been shut down in 5 mins
TheNumber4
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The analytics state it. Don’t worry, you’ll hear the talking heads “state it” soon. So that you’ll know what to believe. They are usually a month or two behind actual things happening, like how they thought the oilers resurgence was just mDavID cArRYinG tHe oIlERs aGAiN
Interesting. I'm not one to dig into the analytics since I don't understand them well enough.
I usually wait for someone to post them with the "analytics for dummies" explanation attached.
Figured those results would have made the mains by now, so probably just missed them
