Post-Game Talk: Oilers 4, Red Wings 3

[Duke74]

Nothing he said was bashing him, people are allowed to critique your favorite player without your panties getting in a bunch.

I think the poster was remarking that he didn't have a very good game, but I may have misinterpreted his meaning, as I think he clarified later that he was discussing Puljujarvi's game.

 

[Raab]

Haven’t watched the last few games as I’ve been busy with work and hunting. From the highlights I find it funny that two of the scape goats on here in Caggiula and Koskinen have looked downright dominant. Not hearing to much about the Koskinen overpay now.

Also really liking how much our dmen are engaging on the offensive side of things. Larsson with a few big clappers, Klefbom joining the rush, Garrison on the PP. Just a few examples.

Also nice to see some secondary scoring. Looks like lines 1,2,4 have all found their grove. Seems like the Strome line is pretty well useless , but maybe they’re doing good things of the defensive side? Would be nice if we could get that 3rd line going as well. Have to think Lucic will be traded this year or next summer after his bonus is paid at this rate.

 

[KarmaPolice]

As of now, there's only one team in the league with a better record than us in the last 10 games, and that's Nashville who've gone 8-2-0. We've gone 7-2-1 with only Tampa Bay and Minny equaling our pace. Pretty amazing, and great rebound after a tough start. Hope we can keep it up and pressure the Flames for first place in the division.

 

[NeverForget06]

Last year game #13 was also against the Red Wings. We lost 4-0 to bring our record on the year to 4-8-1.

We were pretty much sunk at that point. So happy we have a different story this year

 

[Mez]

Oh I love HFoil....Praise and cheer any goalie that isn't Talbot for an .885 performance. Ive liked Koski so far but lets be real. If Talbot took his place last night people on here would be calling for his head instead of saying Detroits goals were lucky. He still has lots to prove before he can even be considered for starter or 1B.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Oh I love HFoil....Praise and cheer any goalie that isn't Talbot for an .885 performance. Ive liked Koski so far but lets be real. If Talbot took his place last night people on here would be calling for his head instead of saying Detroits goals were lucky. He still has lots to prove before he can even be considered for starter or 1B.

This so many times. Its like people aren't happy with the team if they can't devour some of the players that ever even cause this to be a good club.

 

[rboomercat90]

Why doesn't Lucic ever get benched? It'd because of his salary and it would be an embarrassment to Chia. If they did the right thing the team would be winning been more. This is the hidden cancer within the team. Luckily they win in spite of this.

Some of you guys need to stop focussing on what some players are making. Those contracts have been signed and they’re not going away. As long as they’re still Oilers the goal is finding some way and some place they can fit in to help the team. Even if it isn’t in the role they were expected to be in.

 

[Forgot About Drai]

I think Pulju needs to be sent down to be honest. Rather have Marody in the lineup at this point.

 

[ujju2]

I think Pulju needs to be sent down to be honest. Rather have Marody in the lineup at this point.

I'd send down both of Puljujärvi and Yamamoto. I really like Marody, but we already have Rattie waiting to draw back into the lineup. Marody might be better off playing top minutes in the AHL alongside guys like Pulju, Yama, and Benson.

 

[Forgot About Drai]

I'd send down both of Puljujärvi and Yamamoto. I really like Marody, but we already have Rattie waiting to draw back into the lineup. Marody might be better off playing top minutes in the AHL alongside guys like Pulju, Yama, and Benson.

Totally forgot about Rattie. I agree.

 

[PBandJ]

Oh I love HFoil....Praise and cheer any goalie that isn't Talbot for an .885 performance. Ive liked Koski so far but lets be real. If Talbot took his place last night people on here would be calling for his head instead of saying Detroits goals were lucky. He still has lots to prove before he can even be considered for starter or 1B.

Talbot hasn't earned any benefit of doubt. 16/17 is beginning to look like an aberration for him.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Some of you guys need to stop focussing on what some players are making. Those contracts have been signed and they’re not going away. As long as they’re still Oilers the goal is finding some way and some place they can fit in to help the team. Even if it isn’t in the role they were expected to be in.

Fine, forget what he makes. How about what he's producing? Which is to say, absolutely nothing.

Also if Talbot let in those goals yesterday you can bet your sweet ass HFOil would've been all over him. Two if not all three were of the weak variety.

 

[Spawn]

I don't know why, but it delights me greatly that Kari Takko is also on this list

That statline for Martin Gerber is made even better by the fact that those are the only 3 games he ever played in Edmonton. Last 3 games he played in the NHL.

 

[PBandJ]

I must be going insane, I do not remember Martin Gerber playing for us...

 

[Spawn]

I'd send down both of Puljujärvi and Yamamoto. I really like Marody, but we already have Rattie waiting to draw back into the lineup. Marody might be better off playing top minutes in the AHL alongside guys like Pulju, Yama, and Benson.

I don't disagree the AHL is best for Pulju and Yamamoto. And Marody too for that matter.

But we don't have any extra forwards if all three are down.

 

[rboomercat90]

That statline for Martin Gerber is made even better by the fact that those are the only 3 games he ever played in Edmonton. Last 3 games he played in the NHL.

Yeah, it was strange at the time that the team never even offered him a contract the next season when we had nothing else.

 

[Spawn]

Yeah, it was strange at the time that the team never even offered him a contract the next season when we had nothing else.

Well we had Dubnyk and Khabibulin at the time.

 

[Porkleaker]

Oh I love HFoil....Praise and cheer any goalie that isn't Talbot for an .885 performance. Ive liked Koski so far but lets be real. If Talbot took his place last night people on here would be calling for his head instead of saying Detroits goals were lucky. He still has lots to prove before he can even be considered for starter or 1B.

To be fair, Nurse was kinda trash in that game. 1st goal was on him and there was just a complete breakdown defensively, then he took a stupid penalty after too. 2nd goal was just a stupid fluke, that bounce off the boards, you don't really see that often. 3rd goal was just pure luck from Bertuzzi. Not trying to discredit all the goals but Detroit clearly getting some really lucky bounces considering how hard the Oilers were dominating them in terms of shots, chances and just possession. And of course Koskinen is 1B, do you really miss Montoya that much?

 

[rboomercat90]

Well we had Dubnyk and Khabibulin at the time.

The issue was Khabibulin and we never really got anything from him. First he was hurt, then he had his drunk driving issues and then he was hurt again. At the best he was a somewhat capable backup who couldn’t stay healthy for more than four or five games. Not once in the four years he was here was he someone who could be counted on. He was the one that should have been buried in the minors, not Gerber. He was an example of a player who was treated differently so as not to embarrass management for signing him.

 

[Burnt Biscuits]

Didn’t we hear all summer how his lateral movement is terrible, how is glove hand is weak and he only had good stats because the KHL lied about the stats so Putin’s stacked team could look better than they were?

Looks pretty damn good so far this season.

I'm not sure about all that stuff you said there as I tend to take a break from the board for the most part during the quiet summer months, but I don't think that clip necessarily demonstrated particularly good lateral movement, I'd say it more demonstrated good anticipation of the play, the tremendous reach he has with his condor like wingspan, and a good glove hand. From what I've seen of his lateral agility in being able to push off and cover distance, I'm pretty sure more than a few NHL goalies would completely smoke him if they were just drilling specifically lateral agility, but ultimately it's just about stopping the puck and he used the tools he had to do that in spectacular fashion on what was a very tough save to make.

 

[Digger12]

It's games like this that prove the point that you can't just go by save percentage as the holy grail metric to measure a goalie's impact on a game.

Without that highlight reel glove save to outright steal a goal from Detroit when his team had a 1 goal lead at a fragile point in the contest, who knows how this game would've turned out.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

That statline for Martin Gerber is made even better by the fact that those are the only 3 games he ever played in Edmonton. Last 3 games he played in the NHL.

Did he leave for family reasons, I almost forgot he was an Oiler

 

[GMofOilers]

It's games like this that prove the point that you can't just go by save percentage as the holy grail metric to measure a goalie's impact on a game.

Without that highlight reel glove save to outright steal a goal from Detroit when his team had a 1 goal lead at a fragile point in the contest, who knows how this game would've turned out.

3 games .935 save% 2 GAA
10 games .904 save%. 2.81 GAA

Same team, wonder who’s playing better right now

 

[nabob]

I'm not sure about all that stuff you said there as I tend to take a break from the board for the most part during the quiet summer months, but I don't think that clip necessarily demonstrated particularly good lateral movement, I'd say it more demonstrated good anticipation of the play, the tremendous reach he has with his condor like wingspan, and a good glove hand. From what I've seen of his lateral agility in being able to push off and cover distance, I'm pretty sure more than a few NHL goalies would completely smoke him if they were just drilling specifically lateral agility, but ultimately it's just about stopping the puck and he used the tools he had to do that in spectacular fashion on what was a very tough save to make.

Never said he has lateral agility that ranks among the best in the league and I’m sure a lot of goalie are quicker or at least look quicker. Posters were saying he had the worst lateral ability they’d seen. He got his massive frame across pretty quick there.

 

[Del Preston]

Did he leave for family reasons, I almost forgot he was an Oiler

He was the starter for the farm team that year. The two times he was recalled was because Khabibulin was injured.