Offseason Thread XX: Hockey Time

[Tawnos]

Maybe I'm insane, but it really does look to me like the Jets could use one winger as an upgrade in their top-9. Everyone says otherwise, but I don't know.

 

[Ghost of jas]

Maybe I'm insane, but it really does look to me like the Jets could use one winger as an upgrade in their top-9. Everyone says otherwise, but I don't know.

Yeah, somehow I see Zucc as an upgrade on Stafford. But, that's just me.

 

[Kovalev27]

I've been saying that the entire summer people saying they don't need wingers? By numbers they don't but by talent? I see a ton of holes in their top 9

 

[Tawnos]

Yeah, somehow I see Zucc as an upgrade on Stafford. But, that's just me.

I think Miller is probably an upgrade on Stafford at this point in their careers too.

 

[Kovalev27]

Imo if the Rangers called and offered Skjei and a 2nd Winnipeg would have taken it. Let's not forget Skjei is immune from expansion too which Winnipeg needs desperately.

Could just be we aren't willing to make that offer. I'm not sure but to me it's a fair deal two teams making a trade out of strength and for position need

 

[DanielBrassard]

Trouba+Dano/Petan for Skjei+Miller+1st/2nd. That's where I would draw the line.

 

[Tawnos]

I know Dano's supposed to be a good prospect, but I have a hard time with the idea of being a player's 4th team before they're 22.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I know Dano's supposed to be a good prospect, but I have a hard time with the idea of being a player's 4th team before they're 22.

I'm not a dano fan at all.

I'd much rather have Patan.

 

[wafflepadsave]

So by that last statement it would appear that you are less high on our players and prospects than some others.

See, the way I see it, there's a ton of undervaluing of our own players be that Nash to any number of players.

I view Miller as a legit 2nd liner that plays a stiff game. I see Skjei as a less offensive McDonagh.

Those are very valuable assets that are controllable for the next few years.

That in and of itself carries added value to any transaction.

Is it safe to say that skjei is less physical than McDonaugh?

 

[NickyFotiu]

Doubt that ever happened to us!

Well its been a while. I'd like to do it again.

 

[Dagoon44]

Skjei Mcilrath plus is what they would start at.. They love the Undertaker and have tried in the past to trade for him.. They want a lot for him and Told the price is really high right now

 

[Ghost of jas]

From my POV, I'm not giving up both Skjei and McIlrath.

 

[Mac n Gs]

Between paying what it'll cost to acquire him and then giving him the big contract, I'd rather just make a move for a different defenseman.

 

[Mac n Gs]

What's going on with the Yotes and Tobias Rieder? I know we're flushed with wing depth, but I really like his game and think there's some more potential there to be unlocked.

 

[TurgePurge*]

Gord Miller looooooooves Nick Petan

 

[TheTakedown]

Skjei Mcilrath plus is what they would start at.. They love the Undertaker and have tried in the past to trade for him.. They want a lot for him and Told the price is really high right now

Thats insane. I would never pay the price of an entire middle to top d pairing for one top 4 d man

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

I would be fine with skjei, mci, and a small plus.

I really think adding Trouba makes this team a real contender.

 

[Kovalev27]

I would be fine with skjei, mci, and a small plus.

I really think adding Trouba makes this team a real contender.

Agreed I do that deal in a heartbeat. Deal puts us in the picture big time IMO.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Agreed I do that deal in a heartbeat. Deal puts us in the picture big time IMO.

Not only that, but Trouba is only 22. It's a move that is geared toward both winning now and building for the future. Gorton needs to get this done.

 

[bernmeister]

Imo if the Rangers called and offered Skjei and a 2nd Winnipeg would have taken it. Let's not forget Skjei is immune from expansion too which Winnipeg needs desperately.

Could just be we aren't willing to make that offer. I'm not sure but to me it's a fair deal two teams making a trade out of strength and for position need

As do the Rangers
arguably even more so cause we have those NMCs

I would be fine with skjei, mci, and a small plus.
I really think adding Trouba makes this team a real contender.

Please, please do not fall into the trap of thinking moving our core prospects to the point of depletion will help with the long term solution.

We must move a vet, and the only one that fits what /Wini wants is McD.

We must build, then we can not only compete but dominate.
But we can't move core young pieces

Miller +++ as a core piece for Hanifin + as a core piece is an exception since Hanny is ELC and exp exempt

 

[Raspewtin]

Thats insane. I would never pay the price of an entire middle to top d pairing for one top 4 d man

Trouba is better now than either McI and Skjei will ever be and he's younger or just as young as both

It's a no brainer kno

 

[TheTakedown]

Trouba is better now than either McI and Skjei will ever be and he's younger or just as young as both

It's a no brainer kno

The most I would do is skjei and a small add for trouba. The add would have to be a forward

Otherwise mcd for trouba +, and that plus should be decent.

Also this would assume one of Girardi or staal sore gone before expansion. Also, whichever one is left needs to waive their nmc

 

[Inferno]

problem is the number of defenseman they need to protect.

they need to move staal/girardi if they are bringing in another protection required defenseman.

 

[Beacon]

We are not getting Trouba. We'd need to move Staal or Girardi first, and even then it would mean losing Mcilrath to Vegas. Unless we move both Girardi and Staal, patience is a virtue. There will be more Trouba types in the future, there always are.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

We are not getting Trouba. We'd need to move Staal or Girardi first, and even then it would mean losing Mcilrath to Vegas. Unless we move both Girardi and Staal, patience is a virtue. There will be more Trouba types in the future, there always are.

Who, exactly?