Offseason Thread Part III

[MonsterMack]

 

[Pokecheque]

Five years at $9 million per. That's not bad. That pretty much takes him right up to UFA but it could've been worse.

 

[McMetal]

Why all the drama if Kirill was going to sign the exact contract everyone expected from the beginning?

 

[flyfysher]

Would love Miller in the top 6

I would too but doubtful unless Benning is as bad as Canucks fans say he is.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

I dunno how the Wild expect to be serious contenders with the Parise and Suter money on the books but at least they've accomplished step 1 here.

 

[LOFIN]

Can't really complain about that contract. Wild didn't want to go under 4 years, and Kaprizov would've prefered 3 years (to UFA). That means big AAV. But I have zero doubt he is worth it. Looking at his career, the guy is almost identical to Panarin, except slightly better. Will he score more with the Wild? I doubt it. But they finaly have a superstar.

f*** the wild.

 

[The Kingslayer]

Can't really complain about that contract. Wild didn't want to go under 4 years, and Kaprizov would've prefered 3 years (to UFA). That means big AAV. But I have zero doubt he is worth it. Looking at his career, the guy is almost identical to Panarin, except slightly better. Will he score more with the Wild? I doubt it. But they finaly have a superstar.

f*** the wild.

Gaborik was their last superstar so yah I get why they paid him.

 

[Balthazar]

5 X 9 isn't awful in a vaccum but in the grand scheme of things, that gives the Wild only 6 seasons out of the only superstar they ever drafted.

That's pretty shitty.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

I dunno how the Wild expect to be serious contenders with the Parise and Suter money on the books but at least they've accomplished step 1 here.

They won't. It will get worse in the next few years too. They will have to run everything with ELC's and low-money players for several years. I guess that can work if your ELC players go off, but it's probably gonna be tough sledding the next 3-4 years. Wait till they start to suck and Kirill wants to be traded.

It would have been better for them had they facilitated deals where they ate 50% of both Parise and Suter's deals, and then someone else ate 50% of the rest for a couple of picks/prospects, and they traded them both. Instead, they are stuck with those monster cap hits for ever, it seems

 

[cody275]

Not the contract I was expecting

Edit: Didn't see it discussed on the previous page. Not sure how I missed that

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

Can't really complain about that contract. Wild didn't want to go under 4 years, and Kaprizov would've prefered 3 years (to UFA). That means big AAV. But I have zero doubt he is worth it. Looking at his career, the guy is almost identical to Panarin, except slightly better. Will he score more with the Wild? I doubt it. But they finaly have a superstar.

f*** the wild.

Panarin’s vision is on a different level than Kaprizov.

I think that contract should be fine though. I’m a little surprised he was able to get so much so soon, but I don’t think they had much choice.

 

[LOFIN]

Panarin’s vision is on a different level than Kaprizov.

I think that contract should be fine though. I’m a little surprised he was able to get so much so soon, but I don’t think they had much choice.

They didn't have a choice, his situation is fairly unique, though very similar to Panarin.

 

[Foppa2118]

Wait Kaprizov ended up re-signing instead of leaving for the KHL? Shocker.

 

[McJedi]

Zegras would be our 2C now ahead of Kadri. Doubt we'd have Newhook though... with how the Avs have balanced multiple firsts, they probably would have went defense and grabbed a guy like Harley or Heinola.

We’d have Harley and be pretty disappointed about it. Harley sucks at defense.

Byram + Newhook > Zegras + Harley

 

[Hasbro]

We’d have Harley and be pretty disappointed about it. Harley sucks at defense.

Byram + Newhook > Zegras + Harley

6’3”

 

[Hasbro]

5 X 9 isn't awful in a vaccum but in the grand scheme of things, that gives the Wild only 6 seasons out of the only superstar they ever drafted.

That's pretty shitty.

And the two after this are going to be severely handicapped by their buyouts.

 

[Eltuna]

The Byram/Newhook or Harley/Zegras debate is interesting to me but the one I think about more is the NJ 2017 and 2019 1st overall forwards versus the Avs 4th overall defenceman.

It’s quite the coincidence that the Avs had the best odds at both first overalls yet lost both to the same team and dropped as far as they could. Even rarer that the 4th overall picks have a real shot at usurping the forwards and having better careers. It would be tough to find two other years that close together where the 4th overalls could end up as more valuable than the 1st overalls.

 

[Sea Eagles]

Dude. I love your energy but comparing a over the hill AA on a PTO to legit top 6/awesome top 9 guys is crazy.

Maybe over the hill is too strong, but at best we're hoping he can be a solid 4th liner for us. Saad/Donks were 40+ point 20+ goal players... Pulling up their career statistics is pretty disingenuous.

You watch Donskoi's production this season with the Kraken fall off the cliff. He's not surrounded with young superstars anymore (some generational). Our team is a machine that drips productivity, regardless of who's in it.

 

[Foppa2118]

LOL of course it's these two arrogant A holes.

Here's something you probably never hear said about these two. "He's just a very kind and unselfish person who genuinely cares about the well being of others."

 

[dahrougem2]

If he can stay healthy, fantastic. If not, looks real bad.

He was never going to touch 6+ million, though. Ever.

 

[Hasbro]

If he can stay healthy, fantastic. If not, looks real bad.

He was never going to touch 6+ million, though. Ever.

Cut down on the pills and fried banana sandwiches.

Prisoners; Dilemma with Korpisalo who will probably off the BJs next year.

 

[McJedi]

6’3”

Harley doesn’t look like a defender. Can he play LW. His defensive acumen is awful.

I love Zegras but I’m not trading Byram and Newhook straight up for him and a guy that looks pretty bust tastic. Avs already have enough stars. They need more high end quality players that won’t break the salary cap. I love the idea of Byram being thrust into a defensive heavy role with PK 1 responsibilities and no PP time.

 

[Avs71]

One of the things we discussed with Jones was how he raised the bar for other blueliners with his new contract. He took real pride in that, while recognizing the limitations of a cap system — he’s always had a good understanding of sports business, for obvious family reasons. He’s very excited about Chicago, especially playing with brother Caleb, but we did ask him if he ever thought he was going anywhere else. He answered there was a “one-year thing” discussed. Colorado? He tried to avoid confirmation, but under significant and brutal cross-examination, basically admitted it. That situation “had a great chance to win it,” he said. “In my heart I wanted to be somewhere that I was going to be the rest of my career.”

From Friedman’s 31 thoughts:

 

[Cousin Eddie]

It was definitely a Byram ++ for Jones + Elvis thing

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Absolute steal for Elvis. His admiration for Columbus has been very apparent this summer. That deal will be a huge win/win.

Also, welcome to Colorado Korpi (at the deadline).

I think he’ll be an Oiler long before then.