Rumor: Offseason Rumors Thread #1 | Trade Milan, Milan So Far Away?

[belair]

Nurse had an uneven season he was worse in the 2nd half than he was the first half (hasn't been particularly impressive in the World Championships either), if Sekera is truly "healthy" he'll be top 4 not Benning. Benning also will have some competition for his job in Bear and Persson, not sure either will be able to steal a spot in the first half of next season, but on the back half they should be gunning for his job. Also going to point out all of Sekera, Nurse, and Klef have some experience playing the right side.

It's preferable none of them do, which is why we've seen the likes of Eric Gryba on this roster over past seasons and have elevated the minutes of the aforementioned Benning. I think everyone had an uneven season on the back end though considering the guys tasked with carrying the majority of the workload were injured for the most part.

In all honesty if Sekera's healthy, I don't see the logic of heading into next season with the four of them considering the cap situation unless the idea is to literally stand pat.

Bear will be no where near the Oilers next season and I wouldn't put a tonne of expectations on Persson at this point either. It'll be a fun time watching what he does in camp, but that signing screams Auvitu replacement.

 

[Blueston]

Man screw Risto and everyone else...go get Parayko. Him and McDavid have looked magical together

What would you give up for Parayko? Klefbom and the 10 pick? Don't know the Blues do that, but would Oil?

 

[Stud Muffin]

What would you give up for Parayko? Klefbom and the 10 pick? Don't know the Blues do that, but would Oil?

The gap between Klefbom and Parayko is not close to the 10th overal.

 

[I am the Liquor]

The powerplay was great in 16/17. The problem last year wasn't lacking a right shot D, it was the moronic powerplay system of "pass it around the perimeter until you run out of space, then desperately fling it off a PKers shin pads".

They don't have one timer options on one whole side of the ice. Everyone shoots left. That dog won't hunt. Watch a good pp like Tampa or Winnipeg. They have needed a pp shooter since Souray left. And they are still f***ing around with half measures bs. This franchise has zero chance of accomplishing anything with this kind of wallflower leadership.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

What would you give up for Parayko? Klefbom and the 10 pick? Don't know the Blues do that, but would Oil?

That would be wholly dependent on what we could get to fill in the hole on the left side that the departure of Klefbom leaves and what the cost of that player would be.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Anyone partial to picking up Komarov? Should be on the cheaper side of UFA signings given his point production last year, is known for being a good locker room guy, as management seems to think we were lacking that element in the absence of Hendricks. Is also ofcourse physical and can PK, he also speaks 5 different languages one of them being Finnish. The primary reason I'd want him is for the locker room element and I think he might be the right guy (mentor) to bring the best out in Puljujarvi.

I'd definitely kick tires on Leo.

 

[t0nedeff]

At the very least this team needs desperately to sign at minimum Green this off season if they don't do any trades. Its such an obvious choice that just like Vanek last year I feel like these clowns will completely miss the boat on and than wonder 15 games into the season why the teams pp hasn't improved.

 

[Throttlehead]

Care to expand on his zone starts and how incredibly sheltered his line was? Playing with a dynamic PPG player didn't have anything to do with that either did it?

Fact is that Eberle is and always has been a very poor two way player that says away from contact and board battles.

Well since you brought it up...its the lowest OZT (52%) since 2010 and was less than Tavares. If you watched the Islanders, Barzal line did not start rolling till paired with Eberle, they are a nice fit. You are going to have to decide, is it the line is sheltered or Barzal should get all the credit. They are the second line with the Islanders, how much can you possibly shelter? He still had more hits than the guy we traded for him. Now that his shooting % is back to normal, so are his points. We made the bad trade at the wrong time because he had a down season.

 

[ConnorMcNugesaitl]

I'd definitely kick tires on Leo.

I feel like he'd have to take a significant pay cut from his 2.95 down at least a million bellow they maybe a little more to 1.5 for him to make sense here.

 

[belair]

Well since you brought it up...its the lowest OZT (52%) since 2010 and was less than Tavares. If you watched the Islanders, Barzal line did not start rolling till paired with Eberle, they are a nice fit. You are going to have to decide, is it the line is sheltered or Barzal should get all the credit. They are the second line with the Islanders, how much can you possibly shelter? He still had more hits than the guy we traded for him. Now that his shooting % is back to normal, so are his points. We made the bad trade at the wrong time because he had a down season.

He wasn't traded because of a down season.

 

[ConnorMcNugesaitl]

Well since you brought it up...its the lowest OZT (52%) since 2010 and was less than Tavares. If you watched the Islanders, Barzal line did not start rolling till paired with Eberle, they are a nice fit. You are going to have to decide, is it the line is sheltered or Barzal should get all the credit. They are the second line with the Islanders, how much can you possibly shelter? He still had more hits than the guy we traded for him. Now that his shooting % is back to normal, so are his points. We made the bad trade at the wrong time because he had a down season.

Don't waste your time the people that hate Eberle only remember the board battle he lost in the playoffs and to them that's all Eberle ever is or was despite the fact that that season his battle, compete and ability to get pucks out at the blue line improved significantly. Of course that doesn't matter because didn't you see him in the playoffs? He's obviously the worst ever, Chiarelli NEEDED to trade him and it was addition by subtraction.

Oilers fans will go to great lengths to exaggerate the weaknesses and ignore the strengths of whipping boys. It doesn't matter that they're objectively wrong they're just glad Eberle is gone and they can revel in their irrational hatred of him.

You could go back in time and argue the Arnott trade was bad to all the people in Edmonton who ran him out of town and they'd argue the same illogical crap about addition by subtraction just like they do with Eberle.

 

[ConnorMcNugesaitl]

He wasn't traded because of a down season.

You're right he was traded because of incompetence in order to give Kris Russell a 4x4 and a no move clause.

That is unless you have another word for giving Kris Russell a 4x4 and a no move clause. Generally no move clauses are used to drive down the term or salary but not in Edmonton apparently. In Edmonton no move clauses are one of Oprah's favourite things.

 

[belair]

You're right he was traded because of incompetence in order to give Kris Russell a 4x4 and a no move clause.

That is unless you have another word for giving Kris Russell a 4x4 and a no move clause. Generally no move clauses are used to drive down the term or salary but not in Edmonton apparently. In Edmonton no move clauses are one of Oprah's favourite things.

He was traded because he owned a $6m cap hit which would've eliminated all of our available cap space this summer. He was a player who wasn't exactly appreciating in value either. Finding a way out of the majority of that salary without having to take some back was never a given and holding onto him for another year would've been an unnecessary risk.

As for the Russell deal, two pages ago. Market value. What do you expect? These guys to take a pay-cut after a successful first season?

 

[Throttlehead]

He was traded because he owned a $6m cap hit which would've eliminated all of our available cap space this summer. He was a player who wasn't exactly appreciating in value either. Finding a way out of the majority of that salary without having to take some back was never a given and holding onto him for another year would've been an unnecessary risk.

As for the Russell deal, two pages ago. Market value. What do you expect? These guys to take a pay-cut after a successful first season?

That is absolutely absurd nonsense and far from factual.
We had cape space to keep him till this year's trade deadline, there was ZERO urgency to trade him. He was a lifetime 25+ goal scorer and 60+ point guy, you dont trade him on the worst year of his career. Making it sound like you cant trade a a guy with those lifetime stats because he made 6 million in last year of his contract is ridiculous. I GUARANTEE you we would have gotten more than a 3rd line center for him this years deadline since he bounced back to his normal numbers.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

I feel like he'd have to take a significant pay cut from his 2.95 down at least a million bellow they maybe a little more to 1.5 for him to make sense here.

Adding Leo or Roussel would be good for our bottom 6.

 

[Throttlehead]

He wasn't traded because of a down season.

Really?
Was it his cap hit that we had room for? Was it because we got offered such an awesome player in return we couldn't turn down? What was it?

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

What do you guys think of this three way trade?
____________________________________________________________________
Ottawa: Oscar Klefbom, Jesse Puljujarvi, 2018 1st, 2nd, 3rd (All from Edmonton)

Toronto: Jean-Gabriel Pageau

Edmonton: Erik Karlsson (Verbal Agreement to Re-Sign) , Kasperi Kapanen
____________________________________________________________________

We can then sign Thomas Vanek to a 2 year deal worth 2.5 million per, and trade a 2nd for Vladislav Namestnikov. This is a pretty stacked team.

Ryan Nugent-Hopkins - Connor McDavid - Kasperi Kapanen
Milan Lucic - Leon Draisaitl - Kailer Yamamoto
Vladislav Namestnikov - Ryan Strome - Thomas Vanek
Drake Cagguila - Jujhar Khaira - Zack Kassian

Andrej Sekera - Erik Karlsson
Darnell Nurse - Adam Larsson
Kris Russell - Matt Benning/Ethan Bear

Cam Talbot
Mikko Koskinen
​

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

What would you give up for Parayko? Klefbom and the 10 pick? Don't know the Blues do that, but would Oil?

Parayko isn’t going anywhere. Blues won’t trade him.

 

[Wewillrise]

Those complaining about trading Eberle. Do you think he had more value after a playoff run or now?

 

[russianoiler]

What would you give up for Parayko? Klefbom and the 10 pick? Don't know the Blues do that, but would Oil?

Klefbom+10 pick for Parayko+pick from Jets (in Stasnty trade ~30 pick)

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

Those complaining about trading Eberle. Do you think he had more value after a playoff run or now?

In their world Eberle would have been “guaranteed” to have his same regular season performance here as he did in the Island where their scoring forwards, Tavares included, have no clue how to play defence but can toe drag with the best of them.

Eberle was basically benched in the 3rd period and OT of the Canada Russia game because he can’t figure out what the word “compete”means. Once again in important elimination games, he plays his way down to the 4th line.

 

[CupofOil]

At the very least this team needs desperately to sign at minimum Green this off season if they don't do any trades. Its such an obvious choice that just like Vanek last year I feel like these clowns will completely miss the boat on and than wonder 15 games into the season why the teams pp hasn't improved.

Green is going to cost money, probably significant money. The Oilers already blew 2.5M on a backup goalie so they don't have the cap space to sign their RFA's and bring in a significant free agent unless they are moving out a contract.

I could see them going for Vanek if eh comes fairly cheap (2.5M or less) or whoever to upgrade the 2nd line and perhaps a very cheap 4th line center but that's the extent of what they can add in free agency. More than likely we'll see more Persson type signings which I'm all for actually.

 

[joestevens29]

Looking at what Callahan did yesterday and I'm wondering who that guy is on our team. Like mentioned we lost that when Hendricks left and I think it was more than people really thought. Guys play off of guys like that. How is Connor McDavid and RNH are two leading shot blockers?

Need to find that heart and soul guy again. Someone that goes out and makes a game changing hit or shot block. Someone that isn't afraid to be vocal on the bench and when they aren't being vocal their actions speak loud enough.

Komorov would somewhat foot that bill. Plus he's that winger/center combo that TM and PC both love

 

[CupofOil]

He was traded because he owned a $6m cap hit which would've eliminated all of our available cap space this summer. He was a player who wasn't exactly appreciating in value either. Finding a way out of the majority of that salary without having to take some back was never a given and holding onto him for another year would've been an unnecessary risk.

As for the Russell deal, two pages ago. Market value. What do you expect? These guys to take a pay-cut after a successful first season?

Are you really defending the Russell signing? They gave a 4 year deal and a NMC (insanity) to a Dman who is slated to be a 3rd pairing D throughout the majority of that contract. A team that was already going to have cap concerns as is.

Loading up on a 2 year deal would have made a lot more sense and if Russell didn't like it then good luck on the free agent market Kris. Keep in mind that this was a player who WANTED to be in Alberta and nowhere else yet Chia still completely caved.

 

[joestevens29]

That is absolutely absurd nonsense and far from factual.
We had cape space to keep him till this year's trade deadline, there was ZERO urgency to trade him. He was a lifetime 25+ goal scorer and 60+ point guy, you dont trade him on the worst year of his career. Making it sound like you cant trade a a guy with those lifetime stats because he made 6 million in last year of his contract is ridiculous. I GUARANTEE you we would have gotten more than a 3rd line center for him this years deadline since he bounced back to his normal numbers.

The reason there was no urgency is because the last time someone traded for him he was beyond useless. There is a reason the guy played for 8 teams since 13-14