Official Calder Thread 2019-2020

[Muffin]

I’m sure you thought the same thing about Mackinnon in his sophomore season...

Nope I had thoughts that he could be a bust. Hell even MacKinnon himself thought he could be a bust but that's irrelevant right now.

Are you trying to use the Leafs fan argument? Matthews had the better first few seasons so he must develop to be the better player? Turn off the Playstation and realize player development isn't linear, players don't just magically improve the way MacKinnon did, he's an outlier not the norm.

 

[Bgav]

Nope I had thoughts that he could be a bust. Hell even MacKinnon himself thought he could be a bust but that's irrelevant right now.

Are you trying to use the Leafs fan argument? Matthews had the better first few seasons so he must develop to be the better player? Turn off the Playstation and realize player development isn't linear, players don't just magically improve the way MacKinnon did, he's an outlier not the norm.

How did you miss his point by this much lol

 

[Muffin]

How did you miss his point by this much lol

What exactly is his point? Pettersson isn't a franchise player.

 

[John Johnson]

What exactly is his point? Pettersson isn't a franchise player.

His point was that its EPs second season and you're already writing him off as not being franchise center, whereas you probably thought the same thing about MacKinnon during his first few years in the league. Now MacKinnon is a top 3 player.

 

[Aqualung]

What exactly is his point? Pettersson isn't a franchise player.

I think you missed the point and forget your audience as well. Remember Canucks were treated to the Sedins who exploded in a nonlinear fashion. That said, most evidence on its face presents Pettersson as a franchise player. To say otherwise is to ignore history and context.

 

[canuckking1]

I don't think Pettersson is a franchise centre. He puts up points but doesn't really take over a game like MacKinnon/McDavid can, maybe my definition of a franchise player is different from yours? If Pettersson is franchise tier then what's MacKinnon? Generational? They certainly aren't they same tier.

So if Makar is a franchise defenseman then what does that make guys like Josi. Carlson and Pietrangelo?

Let's not forget that Makar and Pettersson are the same age.

 

[Muffin]

His point was that its EPs second season and you're already writing him off as not being franchise center, whereas you probably thought the same thing about MacKinnon during his first few years in the league. Now MacKinnon is a top 3 player.

I didn't write him off. I didn't call MacKinnon a franchise player back then and I'm not going to call Pettersson one right now. I think calling Pettersson a franchise centre is the same as calling Makar a franchise Defenseman right now. Neither of them are there yet.

 

[Muffin]

So if Makar is a franchise defenseman then what does that make guys like Josi. Carlson and Pietrangelo?

Let's not forget that Makar and Pettersson are the same age.

Makar isn't a franchise defenseman yet, not that I'd consider those you listed as a franchise defenseman either.

You have to admit Makar's rookie season has been as impressive if not moreso than Petterson's rookie year. If you consider Pettersson a franchise C then Makar is a franchise D as well.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

What exactly is his point? Pettersson isn't a franchise player.

If he’s not, neither is Makar.

 

[avsfan09]

Is someone actually saying that?

lol Byram was 100% right pick at the time.

Though i will say this, ive seen lots of Vancouver Giants game this year and Bryam has not looked himself.

He was an absoloute force last year on both ends of the ice. Beast!

This year something is off, either he is injured or he has been told to pull the reigns a little and work on the safer side of hockey defencing. He has looked less dynamic and lost.

Still a fanastic propect, especially if Avs are getting the Byram of 2019

That particular poster has alot of takes. It's way too early like you said. Well find out soon enough but I think he's somewhat disappointed he got sent back.

 

[53or8]

Makar is no matthews

 

[Tike Myson]

Matthews is no Makar

 

[HockeySniper]

What about Samsonov? His numbers are pretty good

 

[Hivemind]

What about Samsonov? His numbers are pretty good

It's going to be borderline impossible to pass Makar at this point, but Samsonov has played his way into the conversation. I would say he's a finalist if it was announced today.

 

[HockeySniper]

It's going to be borderline impossible to pass Makar at this point, but Samsonov has played his way into the conversation. I would say he's a finalist if it was announced today.

Agreed

 

[avsfan9]

Rasmus Dahlin had 9 goals in 82 games as a rookie. Makar has 11 in half those games. He will win the Calder barring injury

 

[Tralfamadore]

TSN ranks Makar as the 29th best player in the league so far this season. Can't seem to find Hughes on the list.

 

[Canucks5551]

TSN ranks Makar as the 29th best player in the league so far this season. Can't seem to find Hughes on the list.

Given that Boeser is on the list and Hughes isn’t, I don’t think whoever made the list watches much of the Canucks, if any.

 

[Tralfamadore]

Given that Boeser is on the list and Hughes isn’t, I don’t think whoever made the list watches much of the Canucks, if any.

Yes I'm sure people at TSN in Canada don't watch much Canucks games.

 

[not a troll]

TSN ranks Makar as the 29th best player in the league so far this season. Can't seem to find Hughes on the list.

TSN got drunk again and threw a bunch of random names at the wall.

 

[Canucks5551]

Yes I'm sure people at TSN in Canada don't watch much Canucks games.

Yeah, I’m sure they don’t. Canucks games are on at 10pm in Toronto.

 

[CherryToke]

Yes I'm sure people at TSN in Canada don't watch much Canucks games.

Evidence would suggest that they don't. Boeser ahead of Hughes is hilarious and makes Frank look like a dolt.

 

[AvsFan29]

This year something is off, either he is injured or he has been told to pull the reigns a little and work on the safer side of hockey defencing. He has looked less dynamic and lost.

Ding ding ding

 

[AvsFan29]

How are you guys sleeping at night with Hughes living rent free in your heads? Hell a couple weeks ago there was an avs fan on the Canucks board starting polls about Hughes V Makar. Stand back from the ledge. Your guy is good. Our guy is good. Case closed.

Hard to sleep when there’s so many Makar highlights to watch

 

[Tralfamadore]

How are you guys sleeping at night with Hughes living rent free in your heads? Hell a couple weeks ago there was an avs fan on the Canucks board starting polls about Hughes V Makar. Stand back from the ledge. Your guy is good. Our guy is good. Case closed.

You sound very insecure.