Official 2023 Coyotes OFF Season Discussion

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Keller-Hayton-Schmaltz
Maccelli-Cooley-Crouse
Zucker-Bjugstad-Guenther
Kerfoot-McBain-Boyd/Doan
O’Brien/Boyd

Moser-Dumba
Valimaki-Durzi
Stecher-Brown
Dermott

like the lines - cooley gets playmaker and strong D and front of the net guy in crouse
guenther gets couple vets who can score with him
4th line (w boyd) had 92 pts last year got to be amongst best 4th in league

think D will be moser/durzi y valimaki/dumba from evening out top 4 - 2 best O (durzi/valimaki) and 2 best D (moser/dumba) if durzi D is questionable on D pair w better D of 2 LD

 

[Jakey53]

The thought is Bedard will get more goals but Cooley will be tops in points because he can do a lot more.

What do you mean Cooley can do a lot more?

 

[Canis Latrans]

What do you mean Cooley can do a lot more?

Better supporting cast and depth to take away the hard matchups that Bedard is going to get. He's going to get to play on the powerplay with our top guys who are better than Chicago's top guys of which there's pretty much just Taylor Hall. Cooley is just going to get more offensive opportunities whereas Bedard is probably going to have to create it solely on his own a lot more.

 

[Schemp]

Better supporting cast and depth to take away the hard matchups that Bedard is going to get. He's going to get to play on the powerplay with our top guys who are better than Chicago's top guys of which there's pretty much just Taylor Hall. Cooley is just going to get more offensive opportunities whereas Bedard is probably going to have to create it solely on his own a lot more.

Defensive matchups. Bedard will draw the toughest defensive matchups and Cooley will not.

 

[Vinny Boombatz]

Fellas, Bedard will get 22min+ a night with #1 PP opps and Cooley will get 15 min and 2nd PP opps. I think Bedard will get 80+ pts, so unless Cooley has an unreal season, which would be historic for Arizona, he's not going to beat Bedard.

Only thing that will stop Bedard is an injury from playing too much...other than that, he's got to be the 99% favorite.

 

[rt]

Lassi Thomson on waivers. Remember when we were told he’d be the centerpiece for Chychrun? Good times.

 

[Summer Rose]

Lassi Thomson on waivers. Remember when we were told he’d be the centerpiece for Chychrun? Good times.

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

 

[Jagged Ice]

Fellas, Bedard will get 22min+ a night with #1 PP opps and Cooley will get 15 min and 2nd PP opps. I think Bedard will get 80+ pts, so unless Cooley has an unreal season, which would be historic for Arizona, he's not going to beat Bedard.

Only thing that will stop Bedard is an injury from playing too much...other than that, he's got to be the 99% favorite.

Agree. I think Luke Hughes finishes behind Bedard. Then Cooley and/or Fantilli. I hope he proves us both wrong but I don't see it.

 

[Jakey53]

Agree. I think Luke Hughes finishes behind Bedard. Then Cooley and/or Fantilli. I hope he proves us both wrong but I don't see it.

Didn't Bedard break some of McDavid's records? This kid is good.

 

[Jakey53]

Fellas, Bedard will get 22min+ a night with #1 PP opps and Cooley will get 15 min and 2nd PP opps. I think Bedard will get 80+ pts, so unless Cooley has an unreal season, which would be historic for Arizona, he's not going to beat Bedard.

Only thing that will stop Bedard is an injury from playing too much...other than that, he's got to be the 99% favorite.

Didn't Bedard just have three points his first NHL exhibition game? The winning goal to boot. I know it's preseason, but still, Bedard, I think is head and shoulders above everyone else. Cooley is good, and we are lucky to have him, but I don't think he is in Bedard's territory, but either is anyone else.

 

[moosemeister]

Didn't Bedard just have three points his first NHL exhibition game? The winning goal to boot. I know it's preseason, but still, Bedard, I think is head and shoulders above everyone else. Cooley is good, and we are lucky to have him, but I don't think he is in Bedard's territory, but either is anyone else.

Bedard is going to make a lot of veteran NHL players look silly. I took the gambling bet for Cooley because it could be massive money if it hits, but I’m 97% confident Bedard is winning calder

Bedard
Levi
Cooley

Is the order I have it in

 

[Jakey53]

Bedard is going to make a lot of veteran NHL players look silly. I took the gambling bet for Cooley because it could be massive money if it hits, but I’m 97% confident Bedard is winning calder

Bedard
Levi
Cooley

Is the order I have it in

I think Hughes might give Bedard a run for his money.

 

[moosemeister]

I think Hughes might give Bedard a run for his money.

Yeah I’d put him up there too

 

[Matias Maccete]

I think Cooley with finish below Bedard, Hughes, and at least one more unless he's the rookie points leader by like 10+.

 

[Kai Yo T]

Wyshynski believes that "Best narrative is the guy doing well with the Coyotes" wins a split. I think it's opposite. It's what keeps him from winning it if that were the scenario.

 

[TheLegend]

Wyshynski believes that "Best narrative is the guy doing well with the Coyotes" wins a split. I think it's opposite. It's what keeps him from winning it if that were the scenario.

But the guys who do the actual voting for the award are saying Cooley is a legitimate contender.

Maccelli barely got a peep from them last season and he ended up 4th.

 

[Coyotedroppings]

Didn't Bedard just have three points his first NHL exhibition game? The winning goal to boot. I know it's preseason, but still, Bedard, I think is head and shoulders above everyone else. Cooley is good, and we are lucky to have him, but I don't think he is in Bedard's territory, but either is anyone else.

Two assists, one was for OT winner.

 

[Grimes]

But the guys who do the actual voting for the award are saying Cooley is a legitimate contender.

Maccelli barely got a peep from them last season and he ended up 4th.

And Wysh is one of the voters.

 

[Naych_PHX]

So I know this happens, it's common, but how did we let Connor Clifton go?
Compared to Gormley, Capo, Dineen. We missed that one. Did we just not want him or he didn't want to sign?

 

[rt]

So I know this happens, it's common, but how did we let Connor Clifton go?
Compared to Gormley, Capo, Dineen. We missed that one. Did we just not want him or he didn't want to sign?

He wanted to sign. We didn’t want him. Very annoying. I was pretty ticked.

 

[tucknroll]

Would love to put a waiver claim for Akil Thomas and Philippe Myers... just too much depth on this team that will require going through waiver themselves if we do.

 

[cobra427]

Defensive matchups. Bedard will draw the toughest defensive matchups and Cooley will not.

Cooley won't if he isn't exceptional. If he is exceptional, he will get better line mates and tougher matchups. That will mean he has better defenders on him and tougher D assignments. Cooley won't be under the radar and getting better matchups if he is on his way to being a 70 point player.

 

[Bandit34]

Hope someone puts a claim in for Jenik.

He's a fun player.

Edit:

Looks like fringe waiver eligible forwards like Sanford, Carcone, O'Brien, and Boyd are still around after the mass cuts (TheLegend will post shortly).

 

[JasonDemersWasOkay]

Jenik I think will get claimed

 

[Mosby]

Joan Doan among the cuts