Prospect Info: [Official]: 2017 Draft Thread

[DFF]

Seems like no real consensus between 5-20...some "highly ranked" prospect is going to fall to the Flames.

 

[Volica]

So apparently Bob's list was 'leaked' earlier today on TSN.ca and quickly taken down.
Someone on this board managed to screen cap and post it:

https://imgur.com/a/9tvzU

Looks like Liljegren might actually be a Calgary pick at least based on this.
Suzuki @ 12
Andersson @ 13

There's a chance one might fall. This is going to be a really interesting draft.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

NJ would regret not taking Patrick first.

 

[Volica]

NJ would regret not taking Patrick first.

I kind of feel that way.
But who knows. The Swiss kid might be a really good high end offensive centre; he might also be a winger.

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

I've heard NJ want Heiskanen or Makar.

Makar skates like Scotty, maybe that's why?

 

[JPeeper]

I've heard NJ want Heiskanen or Makar.

Makar skates like Scotty, maybe that's why?

If New Jersey picks either D over Hiescher or Patrick I will lol. Dallas could then pick the other D and Colorado could end up with Patrick or Hiescher.

I sort of hope that happens to see everyone go crazy since it won't affect our draftee.

 

[Flames Fanatic]

Great spreadsheet found here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yxwEPYJ7lG6oxKsKnX62e-u8P9saQnUAXrtWVFhCFzg/edit#gid=0

Solid summary of average rankings, range, tiers, etc.

 

[Club]

Great spreadsheet found here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yxwEPYJ7lG6oxKsKnX62e-u8P9saQnUAXrtWVFhCFzg/edit#gid=0

Solid summary of average rankings, range, tiers, etc.

Really hope Buffalo takes someone other than Tippett at 8. I see Bust written all over the guy, but that's just my honest opinion.

 

[chunkylover53]

If a faller doesn't happen at 16, I wouldn't mind trading down to recoup a pick, then picking someone like Robert Thomas.

 

[Meatpuppet42]

Great spreadsheet found here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yxwEPYJ7lG6oxKsKnX62e-u8P9saQnUAXrtWVFhCFzg/edit#gid=0

Solid summary of average rankings, range, tiers, etc.

On this spreadsheet they have Kostin as a RHS but other web sites have him as a LHS.
Just keeping a eye on him due to the "swing for the fences" quote.
I think Calgary will take him @16
High risk high reward.

 

[The Gnome]

TSN has Liljegren going at #16...Easy pick to make imo. Top pairing potential in the mold of Karlsson or Doughty and a RHS. Imagine this in the future:

Brodie-Hamilton
Giordano-Liljegren
X-Stone

Even then, RHS offensively gifted dmen are highly valued. so a return on him, barring developmental setback, would be quite high if we had greater needs elsewhere.

The only other faller I'd take would be Tippett, which is doubtful as he's ranked pretty high by most. But that would be going purely on our need for a power RW. I think Liljegren will adapt to playing against men next year and a lot of people will kick themselves for not drafting him if he falls to the flames.

 

[Ace Rimmer]

On this spreadsheet they have Kostin as a RHS but other web sites have him as a LHS.
Just keeping a eye on him due to the "swing for the fences" quote.
I think Calgary will take him @16
High risk high reward.

If Calgary takes him at #16, I will be fine with it, but somewhat disappointed they didn't trade back and get Kostin later in the first, and another pick in the 2nd or 3rd round.

 

[OvermanKingGainer]

On this spreadsheet they have Kostin as a RHS but other web sites have him as a LHS.

Left shot.

 

[Volica]

TSN has Liljegren going at #16...Easy pick to make imo. Top pairing potential in the mold of Karlsson or Doughty and a RHS. Imagine this in the future:

Brodie-Hamilton
Giordano-Liljegren
X-Stone

Even then, RHS offensively gifted dmen are highly valued. so a return on him, barring developmental setback, would be quite high if we had greater needs elsewhere.

The only other faller I'd take would be Tippett, which is doubtful as he's ranked pretty high by most. But that would be going purely on our need for a power RW. I think Liljegren will adapt to playing against men next year and a lot of people will kick themselves for not drafting him if he falls to the flames.

I really like Liljegren.
I would be ecstatic about that pick. Major upside, on a kid who was sick/injured.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

Draft hype is in full effect!

 

[Mr Snrub]

Topic of discussion just because: if we were to draft Kostin, would you guys want him marinating for another year in the KHL, or coming to acclimate to NA in the AHL right away? I think an argument can be made for either.

 

[BigRangy]

Topic of discussion just because: if we were to draft Kostin, would you guys want him marinating for another year in the KHL, or coming to acclimate to NA in the AHL right away? I think an argument can be made for either.

I would send him to junior. Either MHL or CHL, doesn't matter, but he needs minutes where he can develop his offensive game instead of just playing 8 minutes on the 4th line of a pro team.

 

[MonyontheMoney]

Topic of discussion just because: if we were to draft Kostin, would you guys want him marinating for another year in the KHL, or coming to acclimate to NA in the AHL right away? I think an argument can be made for either.

I'd want him to go unsigned so we can gain a compensation pick a few years down the road.

That's how little I want to draft Kostin.

 

[JPeeper]

I would send him to junior. Either MHL or CHL, doesn't matter, but he needs minutes where he can develop his offensive game instead of just playing 8 minutes on the 4th line of a pro team.

Well considering he has said he won't play in the CHL, it's either AHL or KHL. Even though I agree with you, he really should play in a league where he can play 20+ minutes a night as the go-to guy rather than as a 3rd/4th liner.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

Is the KHL still a good league?

 

[OvermanKingGainer]

Topic of discussion just because: if we were to draft Kostin, would you guys want him marinating for another year in the KHL, or coming to acclimate to NA in the AHL right away? I think an argument can be made for either.

Russians are at their best playing their game until they are 22-23 and then adjusting to NHL nuances after. Part of it is the language barrier - it's one thing to come over as a developed adult, it's a whole nothing to not only have to learn the NA game but learn it while not knowing the language it is being taught to year while still learning how to simply play at a high level consistency.

One step at a time:

1) Learn to play at high level (KHL) consistently
2) Learn enough English to hang with the concepts being pushed in the NHL
3) Learn the dump and chase that NHL coaches loveee.

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

Looking at McKenzies list the only guy in the top 17 I don't want is Tippett. Everyone else is really interesting. Hoping for Suzuki, Andersson, or Tolvanen or a forward faller. I really like Valimaki if we decide to pick a D.

 

[Club]

Is the KHL still a good league?

Very good if you're referring to talent from the K coming to the NHL, lol.

 

[L13]

I'd want him to go unsigned so we can gain a compensation pick a few years down the road.

That's how little I want to draft Kostin.

I'm not that pessimistic about him, but I agree with the broad sentiment. No idea why people are getting excited about him.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

Looking at McKenzies list the only guy in the top 17 I don't want is Tippett. Everyone else is really interesting. Hoping for Suzuki, Andersson, or Tolvanen or a forward faller. I really like Valimaki if we decide to pick a D.

I'd probably cry tears of joy if we got to draft Tippett at 18. I think he's a sure fire NHL'er.