OT - NO POLITICS Off Topic 2019 part XVI - Hockey Is Coming!!!!!!

[CDJ]

Not a fact. It’s your opinion. Having a brother who is a police officer who has been in situations where his life was on the line I can tell you my opinion is they deserve appreciation.

These are the deadliest jobs in America, study says

Again, it is a fact that relative to many jobs it isn’t as dangerous. Dangerous? Yes. Worthy of blind worship and boot licking? Absolutely not

I’m sure your brother is a great guy and good at his job. Many are. I’m sure he’s been in danger. He definitely deserves appreciation. I’ve never denied that. Doesn’t change the facts as a whole though.

 

[BNHL]

In Quebec traffic court the officer doesn't have to show up, the prosecutor just argues the police report.

Here,it's purely financial,an officer gets OT for showing up at a magistrate hearing and it is optional,some departments don't allow it. If the violator doesn't like the magistrate's decision,he can opt for a judge and then the cop will be summoned. A state trooper is assigned to the magistrate and will be present.

 

[Chief Nine]

You’re implying that since there were no cars on the highway that none would be merging on, that’s just now how it works. But again, whatever

I don't get this what this "argument" means at all, but considering the context, yeah, "whatever" is apropos I guess

 

[LouJersey]

Just saying the job isn’t as dangerous as y’all make it out to be, sorry the facts offend. Sorry I don’t blindly worship them. I appreciate them as individuals, but guess what? Some are dicks! And they don’t deserve to be blindly worshipped “because they put their lives on the line”. Lots of people do every day. That’s my point

There’s a little ant man that I don’t like who has a saying: facts don’t care about your feelings!

You’re hilarious. Just wearing a police uniform makes you a target, but I guess your suit and tie has the same effect on people. Wondering how many roofers have been assassinated sitting in their roofing trucks

Like I said others may “put their lives on the line” but when shit goes down they cut and run while cops go the other way towards the violence or bad situation.

There are d bags in every walk of life so that’s also whatever.

 

[BNHL]

Every cop I know --- local or state ---- has told me they don't even consider stopping someone for speeding if they're either within 10 mph of the limit and/or are going with the flow of traffic.

If you're driving 90+ you deserve to get stopped.
Doing 50 in a 30, you deserve to get stopped.

If you drive 60 - 65 on the highway, you're a bigger danger than those driving 75 - 80.

I have many friends that are Boston Police,including my ex. She would rarely pull over cars for minor traffic incidents because next thing is they are illegal,or no license and on and on,one pullover resulting in 4 hours of paperwork. She was working C11 in Dorchester. My pals are the same,they will stop cars just to let them know,if it's egregious.

 

[CDJ]

You’re hilarious. Just wearing a police uniform makes you a target, but I guess your suit and tie has the same effect on people. Wondering how many roofers have been assassinated sitting in their roofing trucks

Like I said others may “put their lives on the line” but when **** goes down they cut and run while cops go the other way towards the violence or bad situation.

There are d bags in every walk of life so that’s also whatever.

You keep citing these horrible examples and scenarios as if it changes the fact that roofers work a more dangerous job but it just doesn’t. They choose to do the job, just as roofers choose to roof

I’m working with data. You are working with stories and emotion

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

So cops have a right to be a dick if the person they pull over doesn’t worship them, that’s not a problem at all

By the way I asked “how are you doing tonight sir” and he told me about my lane violation and then went back to the car without saying anything else. You weren’t there for the interaction so maybe shut up?

They aren't a waiter at a restaurant!

My God.

 

[CDJ]

They aren't a waiter at a restaurant!

My God.

I apologize for describing my disrespectful interaction Donnie!

For the record he’s not a dick for not engaging me in lovely conversation.

 

[Seidenbergy]

Pack mentality in full effect here.

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

Pack mentality in full effect here.

I guess if someone came in here and stated 2+2=5 and everyone posted at them about it that would be a pack mentality as well.

 

[LouJersey]

You keep citing these horrible examples and scenarios as if it changes the fact that roofers work a more dangerous job but it just doesn’t. They choose to do the job, just as roofers choose to roof

I’m working with data. You are working with stories and emotion

In that case where does being a school student rank? There are more deaths in rush hour traffic than there is hang gliding....Which is more dangerous?

 

[CDJ]

In that case where does being a school student rank? There are more deaths in rush hour traffic than there is hang gliding....Which is more dangerous?

These numbers are rates, not totals

 

[LouJersey]

Pack mentality in full effect here.

So you agree being a traveling salesman is a more dangerous job than a police officer?

 

[CDJ]

So you agree being a traveling salesman is a more dangerous job than a police officer?

That’s interesting, who made that argument?

 

[Seidenbergy]

I guess if someone came in here and stated 2+2=5 and everyone posted at them about it that would be a pack mentality as well.

I disagree that that is what is happening here.

Nothing that I have seen CDJ write is factually incorrect like 2+2 = 5 would be.

 

[LouJersey]

That’s interesting, who made that argument?

It's on the list over police office. Stupid right?

7. Driver/sales workers and truck drivers

 

[CDJ]

It's on the list over police office. Stupid right?

7. Driver/sales workers and truck drivers

Truck Drivers absolutely work a more dangerous job. Sleepless nights on the road, very easy to kill somebody or yourself. That’s why many do amphetamines

Sorry facts don’t care about your feelings Lou!

 

[LouJersey]

Truck Drivers absolutely work a more dangerous job. Sleepless nights on the road, very easy to kill somebody or yourself. That’s why many do amphetamines

Sorry facts don’t care about your feelings Lou!

And driver/sales workers? Again if truck drivers follow regulations....

How Long Is a Truck Driver Allowed to Drive For?

 

[CDJ]

And driver/sales workers? Again if truck drivers follow regulations....

How Long Is a Truck Driver Allowed to Drive For?

Lou I’m not that person that made them die at a higher rate on the job, I don’t know why you’re trying to argue against reality. These aren’t my personal numbers

 

[BMC]

Reason #2,400,576 why I avoid driving on the major Interstates. If there's an alternate route to where I want to go then I'm on it.

 

[Deleted]

Genuine question @CDJ, if the police officer wasn't such a "****" would you still be challenging the ticket?
I appreciate it can be frustrating to get fined for something as innocuous as driving in the left lane on an empty highway and I can certainly appreciate the absolute anger when someone rubs you the wrong way but if there is one thing I've learnt in life it is to pick your battles.

From what I gather (and correct me if I'm wrong) but you are only challenging this to try and somehow get back at this police officer but the reality is that if you were in the wrong then you will most likely loose and even if you do win I'm pretty sure it's safe to assume that it's gonna be no skin off the police officers nose either way.

If I can offer some advice it would be to draw a line under it and move on and spend the time that you would have spent challenging the ticket instead doing something that you enjoy. The reward from that will be much greater than anything you can hope to achieve by trying to appease your negative feelings of anger and revenge.

 

[LSCII]

Man this place devolved into a shit show.

I'll sum this up nice and easy and hopefully put it to bed. If you want respect, you have to give it. While some jobs may be considered dangerous, a lot of the deaths from certain jobs are due to stupidity and not the actual inherent dangers of said job. IE a truck driver not getting enough sleep is an example of being stupid over actual danger like a police officer faces with every vehicle stop. If you are a police officer, you become a target based on nothing more than your job. If you drive a truck and don't sleep, and take pills to make your deadline, you're an idiot that is endangering innocent lives because you suck. So lumping all that together is a tad disingenuous to me, but whatever.

 

[Chief Nine]

Genuine question @CDJ, if the police officer wasn't such a "****" would you still be challenging the ticket?
I appreciate it can be frustrating to get fined for something as innocuous as driving in the left lane on an empty highway and I can certainly appreciate the absolute anger when someone rubs you the wrong way but if there is one thing I've learnt in life it is to pick your battles.

From what I gather (and correct me if I'm wrong) but you are only challenging this to try and somehow get back at this police officer but the reality is that if you were in the wrong then you will most likely loose and even if you do win I'm pretty sure it's safe to assume that it's gonna be no skin off the police officers nose either way.

If I can offer some advice it would be to draw a line under it and move on and spend the time that you would have spent challenging the ticket instead doing something that you enjoy. The reward from that will be much greater than anything you can hope to achieve by trying to appease your negative feelings of anger and revenge.

Words of wisdom right there

 

[Spooner st]

I disagree that that is what is happening here.

Nothing that I have seen CDJ write is factually incorrect like 2+2 = 5 would be.

If we look at facts...

Except for the fact that firefighters is not a more dangerous job than policemen.
But that was probably deleted before you saw it.

And for the fact that it is the law that left lane is for passing, with or without traffic, with or without cars.

 

[DarrenBanks56]

Got a left lane violation ticket for driving in the left lane past a series of entrance ramps on an empty highway

I could pay that but I’m taking the cop to court out of spite. **** that guy

I would be fuming. I dont leave the left lane ever, on rt 2 and rt 290. its on ramp after on ramp.