One round of cuts have been made and people are already *****ing about roster decisions that haven't even been made yet.
Never change HFNYR.
Never change HFNYR.
Player Discussion NYR Training camp 2016
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Boruto
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Yespur isn't bad at dishing the puck I suppose and you can gather from that decision to put him on the PP as the forward point man that Vigneault thinks highly of his defensive abilities in the same way he puts Stepan there on the PP. Another vote of confidence from the coaches to put him on the 4th line with Grabner at this point. They had a good game last night.
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We're just wondering why the organization reached out to all these new players this off-season, just to possibly lose them to waivers. When it seems we will have the same lineup as last year, with the exception of two or three spots.
I believe that Trouba will sign a two years contract with Winnipegs and then be traded, or it will take some time until other NHL teams offer for him like (10-20) games into the season. After I listen to WTH Jets podcast 0.61 this weekend - a trade wont happen until NHL teams figure out talents and players in the pipeline beginning of this 2016-2017 season.
A very interesting debate how the whole Jacob Trouba situation in Winnipegs developed over the last months - I recommend it.
http://mkpk279.podomatic.com/entry/2016-09-29T16_21_40-07_00
A very interesting debate how the whole Jacob Trouba situation in Winnipegs developed over the last months - I recommend it.
http://mkpk279.podomatic.com/entry/2016-09-29T16_21_40-07_00
Boruto
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Vigneault really wants to get a 100% assessment of the options he has if and when injuries occurs. I think fans think of camp as a opening line up decision process and management treats it as a total evaluation of players within the organization and for the long haul of the season. That said, I am absolutely confident now with the fourth consecutive game for Lapierre that he is going to get offered some sort of a floor contract to go play in Hartford and be the 4th line call up if needed. I'm not sure why they think this is necessary since we have Jooris, Lindberg as the spares at this point behind the presumed 4C right now in Gerbe. Then we have Hrivik as the AHL call up. They brought in Paille last year instead of Hrivik if I remember correctly so maybe their interested in a pure 4th line PK defensive personnel. Lapierre is this year's Paille and Hrivik's chance with the club is getting dimmer imo.
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I think there is a lot we don't see during the practices that goes into the decision making of the coaching staff. Allen said during the presser that some have exceeded expectations (Clendo, Gilmore) and some have not met them. Curious who those are if Buchnevich or Vesey is among them. I'd reckon Kovacs and Stromwall haven't either? They haven't been getting much of a chance during the games and now broken up between 3rd and 4th line.
Yes true, exciting time for young promising players. Robin Kovacs need some goals or assist, but I think it`s too early for him - he is only 19 though.
Revel
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AV was talking about defense when saying that some players have not met expectations. Skjei and Girardi have to be the culprits.
RangerBlues
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I was just about to post the same thing! From his other quotes, he's been pleased with Clendo and Gimore, fine with Holden, happy with Staal, and even praised McLIrath after the other night. McD hasn't been around, Klein is ye ole' reliable, and Graves is still a baby, so who else could he be tallking about?
As for Kovacs....the kid is 19! He's been fine in his one game a and had a good Traverse. His passing and offensive positioning are already up to par, he needs to get better in his own end and engage the opposition with the puck. That'll come. With Miller/Hrivik hopefully winning board battles they can feed him the puck and get him open for some chances.
Honestly the D right now (being unbiased) would look like this based on performance:
McD-Klein
Staal-Clendo
Holden-McLI
Girardi as the 7th
Skjei has not shown enough and is first callup. Graves is still a pup and has time to grow. Gilmore has been great but needs to refine his game, and Paliotta was ok but nothing special. A PP unit of Graves-Gilmore in HFD is impressive.
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DanielBrassard
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RangerBlues
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McIlrath looks like a pro. Im not saying he looks like a top tier D man. But he belongs on this team.
Obviously if someone is going to be sent down, it will be Skjei.
That doesn't mean that Girardi needs to play. He should be the 7th d-man on this team and thats only because he can't be waived.
Irishguy42
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Irishguy42
Mr. Preachy
AV deserve an own topic soon and we haven't even started the season.
I mean what has changed since April 2016 - his defense system?
The whole evaluation process..
Hank had too many games?
Oh boy.. Anyway it`s night here.
Back to topic - it`s a good time for young talents in preseason - so cross fingers for some fine goals tomorrow!
I mean what has changed since April 2016 - his defense system?
The whole evaluation process..
Hank had too many games?
Oh boy.. Anyway it`s night here.
Back to topic - it`s a good time for young talents in preseason - so cross fingers for some fine goals tomorrow!
Irishguy42
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This pre-season has been amusing. I think Gorton/AV/etc have to have been surprised, both positively and negatively, by a lot of players and might be a bit surprised about how difficult their choices are right now.
Will be interesting to see what the cuts after the game are. I think there will be mostly obvious cuts. But I think a few of the names we see on the list will be more telling about the thinking of the coaching staff right now.
Will be interesting to see what the cuts after the game are. I think there will be mostly obvious cuts. But I think a few of the names we see on the list will be more telling about the thinking of the coaching staff right now.
Revel
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I guess Fontaine & Fogarty are still here for the camp "experience", and not to play. They will be cut w/o having played a second in the pre-season, I reckon.
This is the closest I have followed pre-season. I had not been so involved in prior years. Is it common to keep guys in camp this long with no intention of playing them?
This is the closest I have followed pre-season. I had not been so involved in prior years. Is it common to keep guys in camp this long with no intention of playing them?
Your defense prediction is spot on man. Thats exactly what it should be assuming we dont make any trades
Nanaki
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Girardi isn't going to be the seventh D if only because of the money he makes. I'm not saying it's right but it's reality. God we are screwed on Defense.
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