Gardiner is in a lot of Leaf trade proposals because of Travis Dermott. There's some knee jerk reaction because of a less than stellar playoff series capped by a really bad game 7, but those who understand recency bias and sample size know he's a very good player and many still want to trade him because it looks like we have an internal replacement
Data is sparse on him. 28 games played isn't a lot and most people who aren't watching all the Ranger games would not have seen him. Will pay attention this year
He is actually one of the best at defensive zone denials in the league. He gets a bad wrap because of some of his mis-timed pinches, which wouldn't be a problem if the leafs had suitable RHD that know when to cover up from behind
Agree, his mistakes stand out and he's high event, but his net effect is undeniably positive in a big way. I have no issue with the leafs keeping him, just seems like we can afford to lose him with Dermott emerging so we should use Gardiner's value elsewhere in the lineup by trading him
This is a bingo. I've been saying it for 3 years, and the proof is in the pudding. Rielly put up his best season when paired with Hainsey...now imagine what he could do with an actual top pair D 1st partner. Gardiner played his best last season when he had to fill in for Rielly and paired with Hainsey. I totally agree that Gards makes some bone headed blunders...but last season he was paired with Zaitsev who was nothing short of garbage. My hope is to trade for a D 1st guy who is top 4 that can hopefully move up to play with Rielly. Then drop Hainsey with Gardiner....and Z/Dermott.
lol there wasn't even a debate. You made a dumb post and I called you out on it.
Or if the leafs forwards covered the pinch for once in their lives instead of assuming Gardiner will keep it in every time (which he often does).
I am taking that into consideration when I say "there could be some reasons for anomaly". He can not maintain a 42%> corsi & fenwick while being a huge drag on his linemates and expect to be in the NHL, but like I noted, its too early to make a judgement on him because of the sample size and circumstances of his call up. But, that goes both ways, you can't look at his box score stats and think he's destined to be an NHL'er at all, let alone a good NHL'er, because of a good box score result in a small sample with terrible underlying numbers just like you can't disqualify him as a potential NHL'er/2nd pairing guy because of bad underlying stats in a small sample. Need to see more of him to have an indication of which way it will go
well, he's been very successful in heavily defensive usage in the NHL...which might suggest that he can be very successful in heavily defensive usage in the NHL, aka "high floor". His AHL track record (where he's gotten scoring line opportunity) has been well in line with what you'd expect from a top 6 winger prospect.
With Panarin wanting to go to NYR, perhaps a 3-way trade is more realistic?
