GDT: NO LOTTERY THREAD SMH

[NYSPORTS]

Winnipeg would have won the lottery. I’m surprised the nhl announced it

they announced the Jets won the lottery and now they go back into the pack?

 

[BKGooner]

Wowwww

You have to think that there will be conspiracy theories floated...

The frozen envelope is in and the first overall pick goes to the Pittsburgh Penguins. (Or Montreal Canadiens pick your own favorite Mary Sue)

 

[Irishguy42]

Thank goodness this is all very straightforward.

It is

So if Toronto falls somehow into the top 10 we get Carolina's pick and Toronto owes Carolina their 1st rounder in 2021.

If Carolina gets the 1OA, we get the Toronto pick which will be no higher than 11OA.

If Toronto gets the 1OA, we get the Carolina pick, which will be either 14OA or 15OA.

 

[GAGLine]

If we beat Carolina, we still want the Leafs to lose, so we'll be guaranteed a pick between 11 and 15. If we lose, then obviously we all pray that we win 1st overall.

 

[Bob Richards]

 

[bl02]

they announced the Jets won the lottery and now they go back into the pack?

Yep. Honestly don't know why they did that??? If they had announced the Rangers had won I wouldn't have slept well for a few days

 

[AIexisLafreniereNYR]

It is

If Carolina gets the 1OA, we get the Toronto pick which will be no higher than 11OA.

If Toronto gets the 1OA, we get the Carolina pick, which will be either 14OA or 15OA.

Wouldn’t it be...

Hurricanes win Lottery >>>>> Toronto owns their pick.
Rangers lose to Hurricanes or vise versa... Don’t we get Toronto’s pick?

Doesnt it mean we’ll have two pretty high top 16 picks?

 

[Irishguy42]

Wouldn’t it be...

Hurricanes win Lottery >>>>> Toronto owns their pick.
Rangers lose to Hurricanes or vise versa... Don’t we get Toronto’s pick?

Doesnt it mean we’ll have two pretty high top 16 picks?

Hurricanes win lottery with their own pick = they pick 1OA and give us the TOR pick which can get no higher than 11OA, and lower if TOR beats CBJ.

Hurricanes win the lottery with the TOR pick = TOR picks 1OA and we get the CAR pick at 14/15OA depending on if PIT loses or not (only play-in team with higher PTS%), and can get lower if CAR beats us.

 

[Ghost of jas]

Wouldn’t it be...

Hurricanes win Lottery >>>>> Toronto owns their pick.
Rangers lose to Hurricanes or vise versa... Don’t we get Toronto’s pick?

Doesnt it mean we’ll have two pretty high top 16 picks?

Carolina has Toronto’s 1st. They keep the better of the two picks.

 

[GAGLine]

Wouldn’t it be...

Hurricanes win Lottery >>>>> Toronto owns their pick.
Rangers lose to Hurricanes or vise versa... Don’t we get Toronto’s pick?

Doesnt it mean we’ll have two pretty high top 16 picks?

No. The Hurricanes have Toronto's 1st round pick, but it is top 10 protected. If the Hurricanes win the lottery, we get Toronto's pick because it won't be possible for Toronto to finish higher than 11th. If Toronto beats Columbus, then that pick will be somewhere between 16 and 31. It also means that we beat the Hurricanes, so our own pick will be somewhere between 16 and 31.

If Toronto loses the play in and then wins the lottery, they keep their pick and instead give Carolina their 2021 pick. At that point, we automatically get Carolina's pick, but they can't finish any better than 14th (assuming we beat them). If we don't beat them, their pick will be anywhere from 16-31.

We want Toronto to lose so that if we win, we get a pick in the 14-15 range. And if we lose, well, then we have a shot at 1st overall.

 

[NYRFAN218]

If we beat Carolina, we still want the Leafs to lose, so we'll be guaranteed a pick between 11 and 15. If we lose, then obviously we all pray that we win 1st overall.

We want the Leafs to lose regardless. The earlier Carolina and Toronto lose the better. We don't want one finding their way to the conference finals because then we're picking 28-31 with that pick.

 

[Vitto79]

So who was team E would have gotten 1st overall w a 2.5 percent chance ?

 

[Vitto79]

I just want one pick in the top two. Is that too much to ask.

Like last year ? Lol

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

So who was team E would have gotten 1st overall w a 2.5 percent chance ?

WPG

 

[Irishguy42]

My math might be wrong, but here are the pick scenarios for what the TOR/CAR picks will be. Let me know.

EDIT: NYR will pick 10-13 if they lose the play-in and don't get 1OA. If they win vs CAR, it will be 16+. Have not figured out non-CF pick range yet. Maybe tomorrow. Already in bed.

 

[UnSandvich]

Guarantee the pick's going to either a rival, or one of the Leafs/Canes. Guarantee it

 

[nyr2k2]

I hate this shit. I'm sure it's straightforward for some but for me it's needlessly complicated and just annoying.

 

[17futurecap]

Hopefully we lose, give me that shot at the first pick, we aren’t winning the cup, and the kids are still getting playoff experience.

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

so there will be another lottery draw or it will go to the team in a certain slot?

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

Hopefully we lose, give me that shot at the first pick, we aren’t winning the cup, and the kids are still getting playoff experience.

you want to lose for a 7.2 % chance?

Rangers have a chance to pick first overall

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

where would we be picking if we win against the Canes and lose the next series?

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

We're gonna get that top pick.

Let it be known.

 

[Irishguy42]

We're gonna get that top pick.

Let it be known.

BOOK IT

 

[NYRFAN218]

you want to lose for a 7.2 % chance?

Rangers have a chance to pick first overall

It's 12.5%. Those odds are combining all 16 teams against their probabilities of winning the qualifying round. Every team that loses the qualifier has a 12.5% chance.

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

It's 12.5%. Those odds are combining all 16 teams against their probabilities of winning the qualifying round. Every team that loses the qualifier has a 12.5% chance.

OK but what are the chances Rangers hit a lotto 2 times in a row?

Also make no sense that all those different teams(some very good teams) have same odds.