rocketchu
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- Mar 22, 2017
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You are right about Goldobin He does have 0 points in games Petey didn't play in but he does have 9 points in total without Petey on the goal.
He on was pace for 30 points last year. He definitely can get more than 20 points if he played with another center.
37 P might not be impressive but that is close to low end second line production. The other element to his game he is not a liability on the ice. The team is not getting outplayed when he is on the ice.
Yes Goldobin is getting a lot of points because of Petey. The thing is he does have the skill and hockey IQ to get those points with Petey. Why are we discrediting his point totals? You can't just plug anyone with Petey and expect the same results. Look at Virtanen, He had some stretches with Pettersson, he can't even get a secondary assist with him because he doesn't think the game at high a level like Goldobin. Playing with a Superstar, you don't get free points playing with them. You need to know where to go on ice and make quick decision with the puck. Pits before Kunitz they try a lot different wingers with Crosby a lot of them didn't worked out. The greatest hockey player of all time Gretzky retire early because he didn't have any wingers to play with.
Goldobin had 7 ppg. He has 23 P this year. Can tell a specific point like in what game he he got that you thought it was soft? Not all secondary assists are soft.
I am just not sold on him having all of this skill we hear about. He is a smallish player, and is Russian, and I think people make lots of assumptions from that about his skill level. The reality is that he has decent vision and can make passes when he has time and space. Not a great skater and his own agent suggested he change his stick pattern because he was handling the puck like it was a grenade. His shot is average at best.
I would love to see a video with all of his points this year but he has made some nice passes, especially early on, that did not result in points.
In terms of particular plays, and this is probably an unfair exercise, I always think of two plays where 77 got a second assist solely because of something brilliant EP did. The first was the bounce pass of the end boards that resulted in a Boeser goal and the second was the Gretzky like slapper in Detroit. On both those goals, 77 last touched the puck in his own end on one of those it essentially bounced off him. Again, it is not entirely to cherry pick like that but you asked for examples that came to mind and those are certainly 2 of them. Ultimately it is really his lack of high end skills that leads me to conclude he is not part of the solution more than particular points that are "soft". I would love to be wrong but can't see it.