Prospect Info: Nick Paul

[NyQuil]

Yeah, I trade Paul for Drouin and laugh maniacally doing it.

 

[Micklebot]

Yeah, I trade Paul for Drouin and laugh maniacally doing it.

Yep.

If there is any way we can land Drouin without giving up Chabot, Ceci, White or our 1st rd pick, it probably would have already been done.

Zanny proposal for the day:

Smith, Neil Paul for Drouin.... wait for Tbay to laugh hysterically,

Offer up sweetener of Wikstrand... wait for Tbay to slam the phone down

Forge a confirmation of trade fax, and send to NHL HQ.

 

[aragorn]

Once again I'm the lone voice against trading Paul especially for another skilled one dimensional soft player who has yet to prove anything at the professional level. Ottawa needs all of the things Paul brings, size, grit, face offs, good defensively, some scoring, special teams & hard to play against. I'd do Wikstrand for Drouin one malcontent for another or the best defenceman not playing in the NHL for the best forward not playing in the NHL. lol

 

[Liver King]

doesnt Nick Paul and Dzingel playing well make a White for Drouin trade easier to stomach?

 

[HavlatMach9]

doesnt Nick Paul and Dzingel playing well make a White for Drouin trade easier to stomach?

don't think it makes a difference.

 

[2CHAINZ]

Straight up Nick Paul is one good looking cat.

 

[Back in Black]

Why the **** would we want Drouin? Tampa doesn’t want him, what does that tell you??

He’s nothing but trouble and hasn’t done s***!

 

[Burrowsaurus]

don't think it makes a difference.

Well yeah it definitely makes a difference just not in such a sample size. If Paul emerges as a dominant top 6 center or winger then yeah. A little easier to stomach losing white

Just like if wikstrand came over and played like a legit top 4 d. A little easier to let chabot go.

Flip side. If dzingel emerges as a top 6 winger then I guess don't need to get drouin.

 

[Micklebot]

Once again I'm the lone voice against trading Paul especially for another skilled one dimensional soft player who has yet to prove anything at the professional level. Ottawa needs all of the things Paul brings, size, grit, face offs, good defensively, some scoring, special teams & hard to play against. I'd do Wikstrand for Drouin one malcontent for another or the best defenceman not playing in the NHL for the best forward not playing in the NHL. lol

Ok, while Paul brings some great attributes that we can all agree the team would love to hold on to, the talent level of the two is drastically different. It's like saying don't trade Hanzel for P.Kane because we need size down the middle.

 

[Nordic*]

He's a third line defensive player (potential), not much more upside than that, right?

Don't know a lot about him.

 

[Liver King]

don't think it makes a difference.

well, two young natural centers are playing well..along with Lazar fulfilling the 4C position. I guess that doesnt change the fact White is having a great season, but top C prospect for a top LW prospect could be argued with Lazar Diz and Paul as natural centermen

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Would like to see dzingel center a couple good players. He's got really good puck distribution for a guy who's such a speedster.

 

[Liver King]

Would like to see dzingel center a couple good players. He's got really good puck distribution for a guy who's such a speedster.

yeah I love the way he has been playing, so damn fast with good hockey sense

 

[Hale The Villain]

doesnt Nick Paul and Dzingel playing well make a White for Drouin trade easier to stomach?

Two LW/C prospects playing well makes a C/RW prospect expendable in a deal for a LW/C? What kind of logic is that?

If anything Dzingel and Paul reminding the Sens brass that they have NHL futures ahead of them should decrease the need to trade for Drouin.

 

[Liver King]

Two LW/C prospects playing well makes a C/RW prospect expendable in a deal for a LW/C? What kind of logic is that?

If anything Dzingel and Paul reminding the Sens brass that they have NHL futures ahead of them should decrease the need to trade for Drouin.

I dont know when White has played RW, and I think its pretty clear Drouin will be a LW at the NHL level. Diz and Paul both play C in bingo, but yes they can play LW like they are now. The logic would be to trade a two-way centerman that is not on your team for a pure offensive winger that can play now, while having two young two-way players that can fulfill the gap losing White might bring (3 including Lazar - all three known for their good defensive abilities). But, with your logic, we should put all of our focus on a RW which im fine with... still hope we target a long term piece however.

 

[HispanicAtTheDisco]

Really like what I've seen from him in his first two games, don't think he has a massive ceiling but he will be an NHLer.

10-15 goals and around 20 assists. Similar to Eller.

 

[PierresGabriels]

Really like what I've seen from him in his first two games, don't think he has a massive ceiling but he will be an NHLer.

10-15 goals and around 20 assists. Similar to Eller.

At least 10-15 goals. Solid D game. Shown aptitude at both wing and center. Big skilled guy who is also a good skater.

If you want to win a cup, you need a few foot-soldiers like this. All Paul needs is some good ol fashion hard work and experience.

 

[WaitingInVain]

Once again I'm the lone voice against trading Paul especially for another skilled one dimensional soft player who has yet to prove anything at the professional level. Ottawa needs all of the things Paul brings, size, grit, face offs, good defensively, some scoring, special teams & hard to play against. I'd do Wikstrand for Drouin one malcontent for another or the best defenceman not playing in the NHL for the best forward not playing in the NHL. lol

Not sure I count as a relative newbie, but I'm there with you. Clearly getting chided for it up above.

Two things for me.

The first is that I see Drouin as more of a natural centre than a winger, particularly when considering Murray's preferences. And I believe that Paul is a good back-up plan if Z-bane cannot take the next step and lock down the 1C as he is really the only physically imposing centre prospect in the organization. I see White as Turris' replacement (~2 years away) with Lazar as essentially an ideal third line centre and Pageau/Dzingle vying for the fourth line. Chlapik is about 3 years away and offers a good contingency plan. So, the Sens are strong up the middle other than the lack of a true 1C.

The second is the optics. Trading for Kyle was one thing, and it turned out to be a good trade, but at some point you become risk averse as a GM. Where's the real benefit to this trade? Is Drouin a superstar in the making? I certainly do not believe so. He is one dimensional, and the Sens have placed a great deal of emphasis on having two-way forwards, and the staff has been chided by the fan-base for the methods they have used to drive home that point (ice-time for certain players).

They have good talent in the system without the outside credit deserved. I see no reason in trading some of those players for a hope and a prayer.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

How much more. Paul and a first for drouin is quite fair. For us. Tampa won't like it.

B prospect and a first for an A arguably A+ prospect? Please.

.....nooooo!!

Not until we know exactly where that first round pick will be. I would take anyone in the top 5 of this draft easily over Drouin.

 

[God Says No]

Of course you trade a Paul for Drouin if that is on the table. It's much easier to find a Paul player than a Drouin.

 

[Liver King]

Of course you trade a Paul for Drouin if that is on the table. It's much easier to find a Paul player than a Drouin.

strange, I think Paul is one of the more unique prospects we have ever had. A 20 year old kid who is 6'4 230 and can move...extremely rare imo.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

.....nooooo!!

Not until we know exactly where that first round pick will be. I would take anyone in the top 5 of this draft easily over Drouin.

Right the lottery.

Top 5 this year? No way.

Tkatchuk is nowhere close to what drouin can bring.

 

[Holdurbreathe]

Ok, while Paul brings some great attributes that we can all agree the team would love to hold on to, the talent level of the two is drastically different. It's like saying don't trade Hanzel for P.Kane because we need size down the middle.

What has Drouin done to warrant the return some people have suggested?

I definitely understand StevieY wanting a great return for his #3 overall pick in 2013, but realistically he is going to have to get extremely fortunate to get more than a prospect and/or a mid - late 1st round pick.

Obviously Drouin has shown he has skill, yet it appears his character may be a significant downside with his sense of entitlement and somewhat selfish behavior.

While there is always a GM that likes to believe a change of scenery fixes all, in this case I would strongly suggest buyer beware.

 

[BondraTime]

Right the lottery.

Top 5 this year? No way.

Tkatchuk is nowhere close to what drouin can bring.

I take Drouin over everyone outside the obvious top 3.

 

[Holdurbreathe]

strange, I think Paul is one of the more unique prospects we have ever had. A 20 year old kid who is 6'4 230 and can move...extremely rare imo.

You are right.