NHL unveils 20 greatest teams of all time

[pahlsson]

missing the 2011 canucks

 

[JackSlater]

Pretty horrible list. Ignoring the great teams from pre-1970 is idiotic but isn't all that shocking, but to really understand how bad the list is just look at the recent selections. Detroit 2008 not being there, Chicago 2010 but not Chicago 2013, Detroit 1998 instead of Detroit 1997.

 

[Bouboumaster]

Terrible list.

So, the Habs team that won five Stanley Cup in a row is nowhere to be found?

 

[MasterDecoy]

the correct answer is the '76 habs: 60 wins. 132 points. 33-1-6 home record. 9 Hall of Famers.

 

[Blender]

· 2015-16 Pittsburgh Penguins
· 2009-10 Chicago Blackhawks
· 2001-02 Detroit Red Wings
· 2000-01 Colorado Avalanche
· 1997-98 Detroit Red Wings
· 1993-94 New York Rangers
· 1991-92 Pittsburgh Penguins
· 1990-91 Pittsburgh Penguins
· 1988-89 Calgary Flames
· 1987-88 Edmonton Oilers
· 1986-87 Edmonton Oilers
· 1984-85 Edmonton Oilers
· 1983-84 Edmonton Oilers
· 1982-83 New York Islanders
· 1981-82 New York Islanders
· 1979-80 New York Islanders
· 1977-78 Montreal Canadiens
· 1976-77 Montreal Canadiens
· 1975-76 Montreal Canadiens
· 1969-1970 Boston Bruins

http://nhl.nbcsports.com/2017/05/18/nhl-unveils-20-greatest-teams-of-all-time/

Yikes that list is bad. I don't think it makes any sense either to have every year of a dynasty on there, when they were essentially carried by the same core of players.

 

[ResilientBeast]

The Hockey News back in 2010 published a book in 2010 "We Are The Champions: The Greatest Hockey Teams of All Time"

I disagree with them on a lot of stuff but their list is a lot better

1. 76-77 - Habs
2. 83-84 - Oilers
3. 82-83 - Islanders
4. 55-56 - Habs
5. 51-52 - Red Wings
6. 71-72 - Bruins
7. 74-75 - Flyers
8. 01-02 - Red Wings
9. 91-92 - Pens
10. 62-63 - Leafs
11. 68-69 - Habs
12. 00-01 - Avs
13. 38-39 - Bruins
14. 88-89 - Flames
15. 48-49 - Leafs
16. 07-08 - Red Wings
17. 06-07 - Ducks
18. 43-44 - Habs
19. 35-36 - Red Wings
20. 99-00 - Devils
21. 93-94 - Rangers
22. 08-09 - Pens
23. 60-61 - Hawks
24. 98-99 - Stars
25. 39-40 - Rangers

 

[The Panther]

The Hockey News back in 2010 published a book in 2010 "We Are The Champions: The Greatest Hockey Teams of All Time"

I disagree with them on a lot of stuff but their list is a lot better

1. 76-77 - Habs
2. 83-84 - Oilers
3. 82-83 - Islanders
4. 55-56 - Habs
5. 51-52 - Red Wings
6. 71-72 - Bruins
7. 74-75 - Flyers
8. 01-02 - Red Wings
9. 91-92 - Pens
10. 62-63 - Leafs
11. 68-69 - Habs
12. 00-01 - Avs
13. 38-39 - Bruins
14. 88-89 - Flames
15. 48-49 - Leafs
16. 07-08 - Red Wings
17. 06-07 - Ducks
18. 43-44 - Habs
19. 35-36 - Red Wings
20. 99-00 - Devils
21. 93-94 - Rangers
22. 08-09 - Pens
23. 60-61 - Hawks
24. 98-99 - Stars
25. 39-40 - Rangers

Now we're getting somewhere.

Agree with '77 Habs as #1.

I think the 1984-85 Oilers were more unbeatable than the 1983-84 squad, which had never won.

I also think the 1981-82 Islanders were considerably better than the 1982-83 Islanders.

 

[TopShelfYzerman]

Do you not understand what chronological means? Let alone, reverse chronological.

If one does not understand chronological, how would one understand reverse chronological. Your statement makes no sense. You act as if 'reverse chronological' is easier to understand.

 

[Plural]

Well, this is clearly not an all-time list. Other than it being something else than it says, it's a fairly good list.

 

[AngelDuck]

06-07 ducks would crush a lot of those teams

 

[Plural]

06-07 ducks would crush a lot of those teams

That was a great team but it wouldn't be able to crush any of the listed. Win? For sure. Crush? Absolutely not.

 

[JaegerDice]

06-07 ducks would crush a lot of those teams

Some probably.

Neither of the cup era teams selected though.

 

[SpookyTsuki]

Uhh...

-97 Red Wings was better than -98 Red Wings.

With or without Konstantinov is a HUGE difference.

I liked the 98 wings over 97. Lidstrom was big in 98. The depth was better as well imo

 

[NickLidstrom]

Bad list, but if it's fan voted it doesn't mean too much.

 

[george14]

The 08 team was better in pretty much every aspect outside of looking at the lineup on paper. 08 was like a well oiled machine offensively and defensively and 09 was basically a "we're going to win on talent."

Hossa didn't necessarily gel well with Datsyuk or Zetterberg and Babcock basically refused to play them together like in 2008 except for when Datsyuk returned from injury in Game 5 of the Finals and couldn't even play center (thus he played on Z's wing.)

And like you mentioned, 2008's goaltending was much better in the regular season (although once the playoffs hit Osgood stepped back up.)

09 Detroit still wins a Cup with better health, but at their best the 08 team was more impressive statically and visually.

I just checked some stats and the 2009 team was much better offensively scoring almost 40 more goals, but much worse defensively/goaltending by allowing 60 more goals. Hossa was a stud for us scoring 40 goals. Datsyuk was basically identical offensively. Franzen and Kronwall had much better production too. I think those two teams are comparing apples to apples.

 

[Laveuglette]

I did the voting thing on NHL.com, we could see the percentage of votes for each team in a matchup, and the 77 Canadiens were beaten by the 09-10 Chicago Blackhawks. Just shows how much of a joke fan voting can be.

 

[Laveuglette]

The Hockey News back in 2010 published a book in 2010 "We Are The Champions: The Greatest Hockey Teams of All Time"

I disagree with them on a lot of stuff but their list is a lot better

1. 76-77 - Habs
2. 83-84 - Oilers
3. 82-83 - Islanders
4. 55-56 - Habs
5. 51-52 - Red Wings
6. 71-72 - Bruins
7. 74-75 - Flyers
8. 01-02 - Red Wings
9. 91-92 - Pens
10. 62-63 - Leafs
11. 68-69 - Habs
12. 00-01 - Avs
13. 38-39 - Bruins
14. 88-89 - Flames
15. 48-49 - Leafs
16. 07-08 - Red Wings
17. 06-07 - Ducks
18. 43-44 - Habs
19. 35-36 - Red Wings
20. 99-00 - Devils
21. 93-94 - Rangers
22. 08-09 - Pens
23. 60-61 - Hawks
24. 98-99 - Stars
25. 39-40 - Rangers

Why only 76-77? 75-76 and 77-78 were pretty much as strong as 1977.

Should be

1. 77 Canadiens
2. 76 Canadiens
3. 78 Canadiens

then you can plug in the oilers and the islanders, on par with 78-79 Canadiens.

 

[Laveuglette]

The pens will be considered the best team of all time because of kids who idealize Crosby that will spam vote. Same crap as people constantly yelling that Crosby is a top 5 all-time player on here. Just homers.

 

[ResilientBeast]

Why only 76-77? 75-76 and 77-78 were pretty much as strong as 1977.

Should be

1. 77 Canadiens
2. 76 Canadiens
3. 78 Canadiens

then you can plug in the oilers and the islanders, on par with 78-79 Canadiens.

I don't have the book in front of me, but as you could tell it looks like they only picked what they deemed the best year of the dynasty

 

[The Tourist]

I'm a homer but 99 Stars have gotta be somewhere close to that list.

Modano (Hall of Famer, #1 American born scorer)
Hull (Hall of Famer, 700+ goals)
Nieuwendyk (Hall of Famer, 560+ goals, 1000+ points)
Verbeek (500+ goals, 1000+ points)
Belfour (Hall of Famer)
Zubov (Close to 800 points, should be HoF some day)
Hatcher (US hockey hall of fame, great captain)
Sydor (500+ points, very good dman)
Matvichuck (paired with Hatcher to form one of the more physical shutdown pairs)
That was a hell of a top four on defense and then Belfour behind them.
Jere Lehtinen (3x Selke winner, 500+ points)
Langenbrunner (600+ points)

Had a shutdown line of Carbonneau, Keane, and Reid.

That was just a perfectly built team, especially for the playoffs. Hitchcock as coach with a deep defensive team and a top 6 that had lots of scoring. Finished 1st in goals against and 8th in goals scored. Beat a loaded Avalanche team in the WCF that would have won the cup almost any other year.

51-19-12 for 114 points

 

[goldenbladz1]

Take out the Blackhawks, put in one of the Howe/Abel/Lindsay/Sawchuk Red Wings teams'.

TBH, they really should only put in one or two from a dynasty. Putting all four Islander teams, for example just eats up space, and if you do that, you're really restricting yourself to like five teams. 50's wings, 80s Islanders and Oilers, 60's and 70's Canadiens, as you have 3-4 different yearly iterations of the same team.

yes let's add teams that played in a 6 team league and never dealt with a salary cap . The fact the Pens and Blackhawks can play this dominance in a 30 team league with a cap is pretty amazing. The Canadiens and all their teams and cups wouldn't exist in todays league.

 

[Rebels57]

Blazing pile of flaming hot garbage

 

[Rebels57]

I'm a homer but 99 Stars have gotta be somewhere close to that list.

Modano (Hall of Famer, #1 American born scorer)
Hull (Hall of Famer, 700+ goals)
Nieuwendyk (Hall of Famer, 560+ goals, 1000+ points)
Verbeek (500+ goals, 1000+ points)
Belfour (Hall of Famer)
Zubov (Close to 800 points, should be HoF some day)
Hatcher (US hockey hall of fame, great captain)
Sydor (500+ points, very good dman)
Matvichuck (paired with Hatcher to form one of the more physical shutdown pairs)
That was a hell of a top four on defense and then Belfour behind them.
Jere Lehtinen (3x Selke winner, 500+ points)
Langenbrunner (600+ points)

Had a shutdown line of Carbonneau, Keane, and Reid.

That was just a perfectly built team, especially for the playoffs. Hitchcock as coach with a deep defensive team and a top 6 that had lots of scoring. Finished 1st in goals against and 8th in goals scored. Beat a loaded Avalanche team in the WCF that would have won the cup almost any other year.

51-19-12 for 114 points

Same can be said for the Cup winning Flyers and Devils teams; which also had multiple HoFers and near HoFers. The list is just garbage..from concept to execution.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

yes let's add teams that played in a 6 team league and never dealt with a salary cap .

'50's Red Wings > 2010's Blackhawks, no?

The fact the Pens and Blackhawks can play this dominance in a 30 team league with a cap is pretty amazing. The Canadiens and all their teams and cups wouldn't exist in todays league.

Who cares.

 

[GordieHowsUrBreath]

the avalanche today would steamroll the best team from the 60's