NHL unveils 20 greatest teams of all time

[WonderTwinsUnite]

Let's start here: what's your evidence that someone thinks this?

I thought OP had listed it in descending order from 20 to 1

 

[TorstenFrings]

It's a fan vote. May as well argue about HF proposals.

Fan vote got it about as right/wrong as a "blue ribbon panel" would have. Going by NHL lists.

 

[silkyjohnson50]

Injuries happen, most players are gimped in the playoffs, unless they're completely out then sure, an excuse there is fine. But man, you guys just can't let 2009 go at all huh.

2008 Wings were a good team, but ease up, your bias is clearly showing.

Excuse? Did I say that Pittsburgh didn't win the Cup or that Detroit deserved to? No. I stated that with better health (such as they had in 2008) they still win the Cup. That's not bias, that's just using logic. An opinion, sure, but hardly unreasonable.

But again, the point being that even though 09 Detroit was good enough to win a Cup, they still weren't as good as 2008 Detroit.

Likewise, I've seen Pitt fans argue that 08 Pitt was actually better than 09 Pitt. And we certainly seen 08 Detroit essentially toy with 08 Pittsburgh several times throughout that series.

 

[ResilientBeast]

Fan vote got it about as right/wrong as a "blue ribbon panel" would have. Going by NHL lists.

I doubt it, the panel would have some teams from the first half of the NHL's existence

 

[Seanaconda]

2015-16 Penguins is the best team of all time ?

It's listed by date. OP post has none of them ranked unless the order was magically the same as years.

 

[Kirikanoir]

· 2015-16 Pittsburgh Penguins
· 2009-10 Chicago Blackhawks
· 2001-02 Detroit Red Wings
· 2000-01 Colorado Avalanche
· 1997-98 Detroit Red Wings
· 1993-94 New York Rangers
· 1991-92 Pittsburgh Penguins
· 1990-91 Pittsburgh Penguins
· 1988-89 Calgary Flames
· 1987-88 Edmonton Oilers
· 1986-87 Edmonton Oilers
· 1984-85 Edmonton Oilers
· 1983-84 Edmonton Oilers
· 1982-83 New York Islanders
· 1981-82 New York Islanders
· 1979-80 New York Islanders
· 1977-78 Montreal Canadiens
· 1976-77 Montreal Canadiens
· 1975-76 Montreal Canadiens
· 1969-1970 Boston Bruins

http://nhl.nbcsports.com/2017/05/18/nhl-unveils-20-greatest-teams-of-all-time/

Change this
1969-70 Boston 40-17-19=99
to this
1970-71 Boston 57-14-7=121

What an asinine list. Allowing fans who clearly have no sense of the history of the league and think the game was garbage before a certain date to vote on this list is stupid. Really no greatest team before 1970, no Montreal teams from the 1950s, a team that made 10 straight finals, won six Cups including 5 in a row. No 1960s Montreal teams that made 5 straight finals, and won 4 Cups in five years. No late 1940s Toronto teams that won 5 Cups in 7 years. No 1950s Detroit teams.

Shows what a joke this list is when 6 of the 9 official NHL dynasties have been left entirely off this list.

 

[Doctor No]

Shows what a joke this list is when 6 of the 9 official NHL dynasties have been left entirely off this list.

Alright, I'll bite. Who is the certifying body that determines which dynasties are "official"?

 

[Kirikanoir]

Alright, I'll bite. Who is the certifying body that determines which dynasties are "official"?

http://www.hhof.com/htmltimecapsule/dyntm00.shtml

It`s not that hard to look up. Most sports league`s recognize certain teams as dynasties.

 

[Doctor No]

http://www.hhof.com/htmltimecapsule/dyntm00.shtml

It`s not that hard to look up. Most sports league`s recognize certain teams as dynasties.

Thanks! Appreciate the extra snark. I'll know to Google "Kirikanoir official hockey dynasty" next time.

 

[BLNY]

LOL at last year's Pens. Way to try and make a list relevant. Any list that ignores the only club to win 5 in a row completely loses credibility.

 

[Kirikanoir]

Thanks! Appreciate the extra snark. I'll know to Google "Kirikanoir official hockey dynasty" next time.

I actually was not trying to be snarky, just honest. It`s pretty easy to find.

 

[qwerty]

In:
Colorado, 1996

Out:
Calgary, 1989

Not a chance man. The 1989 Flames won the Presidents Trophy that season along with the Stanley Cup and have the 12th highest regular season winning percentage of any team in NHL history pre shootout/OTL. Definitely good enough to be in the top 20 list.

 

[kingsholygrail]

"As voted for by the fans." Right into the trash.

 

[LetsGoBLUES91]

I feel like they are missing some Avalanche teams here.

 

[RiceCooker]

Needs more "Broad Street Bullies" !!

 

[mrhockey193195]

I love the team, but the 1994 Rangers don't belong anywhere close to the top-20 teams of all time. I'd put some non-cup winners ahead of them. In recent times, even the 2001 Devils or the 1996 Wings. Certainly the 84 Islanders.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Uhh...

-97 Red Wings was better than -98 Red Wings.

With or without Konstantinov is a HUGE difference.

First thing I noticed as well. Also don't see the 15/16 Pens as all that great IMO.

 

[jw2]

By the way, voting for the order of the top 20 is still going.

https://greatestnhlteams.com

Previously, they were showing which team was winning each matchup, seems they took that out for this round.

 

[Luigi Lemieux]

If anything, the 15-16 Pens should be the odd ones out here

Nah, last year's pens team was one of the most dominating teams I've ever seen. They made a lot of very good teams look like they didn't belong on the same sheet of ice. Best cup winning pens team imo, better than '91, arguable with '92.

That said, it's a travesty 08 Detroit isn't on this list.

 

[jw2]

Nah, last year's pens team was one of the most dominating teams I've ever seen. They made a lot of very good teams look like they didn't belong on the same sheet of ice. Best cup winning pens team imo, better than '91, arguable with '92.

That said, it's a travesty 08 Detroit isn't on this list.

I disagree.
The pens 91 and 92 teams ranked 1 and 2 after the first 2 rounds of voting, btw.

 

[Luigi Lemieux]

Excuse? Did I say that Pittsburgh didn't win the Cup or that Detroit deserved to? No. I stated that with better health (such as they had in 2008) they still win the Cup. That's not bias, that's just using logic. An opinion, sure, but hardly unreasonable.

But again, the point being that even though 09 Detroit was good enough to win a Cup, they still weren't as good as 2008 Detroit.

Likewise, I've seen Pitt fans argue that 08 Pitt was actually better than 09 Pitt. And we certainly seen 08 Detroit essentially toy with 08 Pittsburgh several times throughout that series.

08 Pittsburgh is only better than 09 Pittsburgh on paper. On the ice, guys like Crosby, Malkin, Staal, Letang all improved significantly, as that group was still in their early 20s at the time.

 

[Doctor No]

By the way, voting for the order of the top 20 is still going.

https://greatestnhlteams.com

Previously, they were showing which team was winning each matchup, seems they took that out for this round.

To clarify, this looks to be voting to narrow the field of 20 down to 10.

 

[Luigi Lemieux]

I disagree.
The pens 91 and 92 teams ranked 1 and 2 after the first 2 rounds of voting, btw.

That's fine, as nostalgia will cloud people's memory. 91 team was mediocre in the regular season and struggled with a mediocre team like NJ in the playoffs. 92 pens were mediocre in the the regular season, but they do hold the playoff record for consecutive wins with 11, so it's understandable people rank them ahead of 2016 Pittsburgh.

 

[jw2]

To clarify, this looks to be voting to narrow the field of 20 down to 10.

Yeah they're doing it in stages. Sorry if not listing the specifics changes anything
Thanks .

 

[Passchendaele]

Fan votes are about as reliable as Mike Milbury's opinions.

Sports are like movies. Casual viewers consume the present product and have little interest in its past history.

Almost no one is aware that Adam Sandler's Mr. Deeds is a disgrace to Gary Cooper's classic.