NHL Eying 4 Cities To Resume Play In? Edmonton? Part 2

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The beyond meat stuff is really good. It's no better or worse health wise than most ground beef. Also no soy if you are allergic or anti soy.

I read it’s so full of salt and preservatives that your better off eating lean ground beef.

 

[Sanchez]

https://twitter.com/ericengels/status/1277989827452043270?s=21

I'm curious how many players he spoke with and how many were on non playoff teams. Not disagreeing with what players are saying, they are valid points, just wondering how many he spoke with.

 

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Mad cow was caused by feeding cattle meat products mixed in with their feed. That has nothing to do with meat demand. It was all from stupid management decisions made by people who knew nothing about farming

Plus I don’t have to change my underwear after eating lean ground beef. After a black bean burger it’s like an Atlas rocket has taken off in my ass.

 

[yukoner88]

The beyond meat stuff is really good. It's no better or worse health wise than most ground beef. Also no soy if you are allergic or anti soy.

It's got an insane amount estrogen in it.

 

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It's got an insane amount estrogen in it.

I do not need to grow boobs either.

 

[CycloneSweep]

I read it’s so full of salt and preservatives that your better off eating lean ground beef.

The USDA published the average burger with no condiments nutrition facts. 266 calories, 10g far, 396mg sodium. Beyond meat burger has 260 calories 18g far and 350mg sodium. And they aren't really full of preservatives. It's mostly natural oils and starches and pea protein.

I mean either way, burgers aren't good for you and shouldn't be eaten all the time, real meat or fake lol

 

[FlameChampion]

https://twitter.com/ericengels/status/1277989827452043270?s=21

I am not even sure what I am suppose to make out of these tweets? Just seems like a wide spectrum.

I personally doubt that 75% of them dont want to play. I personally doubt that safety is the main reason for concern. I am sure that safety is some concern, but honestly, I just think this is about money and where they feel comfortable playing.

 

[CycloneSweep]

It's got an insane amount estrogen in it.

I think you may have it confused with the Impossible Burger which is made of soy (source of estrogen). The Beyond Meats are made of pea protein. Also the estrogen in soy doesn't really work the same way human estrogen works.

Asian cultures eat tons of soy and you don't see all of them with huge breasts. Usually the cases of people taking too much estrogen from soy products are people who eat way to much of it

 

[SupremeTeam16]

At the end of the day I think money rules and they’ll pick the locations where they feel they will have the best chance of getting it completed. The delay is likely because of the fact they are tying the cba extension and negotiations of short term implications such as upcoming bonuses in with the rtp plan and having the players vote on everything at once. With the added bonus that the delay would also give preferable hub locations a chance to get on top of covid. Obviously that isn’t happening so now I think they’ll go with plan B “safe” options.

The idea of a “bubble” is absolutely ludicrous, especially in a place like Vegas. We’re talking about getting players, team staffs, wives, kids to strictly adhere to a quarantine in the middle of an entertainment Mecca, it’s assuredly doomed to fail. This isn’t even considering the hundreds even thousands of service and support staff that likely aren’t in the bubble and going home each night, going about their regular lives.

Best option is a location with low infection rates.

 

[joestevens29]

https://twitter.com/ericengels/status/1277989827452043270?s=21

Maybe they should fire Fehr if they aren't happy?

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

https://twitter.com/ericengels/status/1277989827452043270?s=21

if safety was such a concern...why even entertain Vegas?
I'm calling B.S

 

[Satire]

I am having serious doubts that the play in will even happen. I'd say there is a very good chance of a wave 2 in the fall again. The United States can't even get their poop in a group at this point either.

 

[SupremeTeam16]

I am not even sure what I am suppose to make out of these tweets? Just seems like a wide spectrum.

I personally doubt that 75% of them dont want to play. I personally doubt that safety is the main reason for concern. I am sure that safety is some concern, but honestly, I just think this is about money and where they feel comfortable playing.

Sounds like a select few trying to push a narrative. The information contradicts itself, one guy saying 75% not wanting to return to play and another saying they know players will vote yes.

Probably a select few trying to sway others and public opinion by planting information in the media. If 75% of players didn’t want to return you’d be hearing about it from the likes of McKenzie, Friedman and team beat reporters talking to individuals regularly, we really haven’t heard any of that.

 

[bone]

Sounds like a select few trying to push a narrative. The information contradicts itself, one guy saying 75% not wanting to return to play and another saying they know players will vote yes.

Probably a select few trying to sway others and public opinion by planting information in the media. If 75% of players didn’t want to return you’d be hearing about it from the likes of McKenzie, Friedman and team beat reporters talking to individuals regularly, we really haven’t heard any of that.

Well if he talked to 4 guys which on the surface looks to be the case, 3 out of 4 is 75%. Though 4 people out of what is at least 700 is hardly a representative sample size.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Sounds like a select few trying to push a narrative. The information contradicts itself, one guy saying 75% not wanting to return to play and another saying they know players will vote yes.

Probably a select few trying to sway others and public opinion by planting information in the media. If 75% of players didn’t want to return you’d be hearing about it from the likes of McKenzie, Friedman and team beat reporters talking to individuals regularly, we really haven’t heard any of that.

One guy was literally saying hockey culture is different. The players will play if that's what the NHLPA or the league decides. They are good sports and will band together to play if that's decided, no one will sit out. Their complaint is literally the NHLPA isn't listening, but will back up their decision.

 

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Raising questions about the NHL’s ongoing CBA negotiation - TSN.ca

 

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The USDA published the average burger with no condiments nutrition facts. 266 calories, 10g far, 396mg sodium. Beyond meat burger has 260 calories 18g far and 350mg sodium. And they aren't really full of preservatives. It's mostly natural oils and starches and pea protein.

I mean either way, burgers aren't good for you and shouldn't be eaten all the time, real meat or fake lol

Using analytics I’d say burgers are better.

 

[SupremeTeam16]

One guy was literally saying hockey culture is different. The players will play if that's what the NHLPA or the league decides. They are good sports and will band together to play if that's decided, no one will sit out. Their complaint is literally the NHLPA isn't listening, but will back up their decision.

Maybe because the PA is listening to the majority of their members, who in fact want to see a return to play. No doubt there’s at least a few guys vehemently opposed to a return and will try and be a road block as much as possible. Nobody is putting a gun to these guys heads and telling them they have to play or be apart of the PA for that matter. They can walk away at any time and not have to worry about it, and I’m sure there will be at least one or two who do that but the majority want to get paid, they want to protect future earnings and when push comes to shove they’ll get onside.

 

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Maybe because the PA is listening to the majority of their members, who in fact want to see a return to play. No doubt there’s at least a few guys vehemently opposed to a return and will try and be a road block as much as possible. Nobody is putting a gun to these guys heads and telling them they have to play or be apart of the PA for that matter. They can walk away at any time and not have to worry about it, and I’m sure there will be at least one or two who do that but the majority want to get paid, they want to protect future earnings and when push comes to shove they’ll get onside.

The thing is the players owe the owners half a billion dollars.

 

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[SupremeTeam16]

The thing is the players owe the owners half a billion dollars.

Exactly, that doesn’t go away. Don’t play and that debt doesn’t get paid down, so now you’ve got 500M owed to the owners and future earnings that will be depressed. Bottom line is the owners and players have one common goal. They need to generate as much revenue as possible.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Exactly, that doesn’t go away. Don’t play and that debt doesn’t get paid down, so now you’ve got 500M owed to the owners and future earnings that will be depressed. Bottom line is the owners and players have one common goal. They need to generate as much revenue as possible.

I feel like they should both just take the hit and both eat half that owes money

 

[SupremeTeam16]

I feel like they should both just take the hit and both eat half that owes money

Thats nice. It’ll never happen but it’s a nice feeling. The league controls the money, they’ll get what their owed no matter how long it takes. All parties involved are better off the more revenue is generated and the more contracts are fulfilled, the bulk of the players understand and accept this.

Like I said, guys who don’t want to play don’t have to. But they don’t also get to cry about future earnings getting decapitated when they were against generating as much revenue possible and stemming the bleeding.

 

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