NHL: Around the League 46
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BobbyJet
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Another officiating shit-show in Florida tonight complete with ref blowing the whistle a split second before Hornqvist scores from his office. Of course, it is ruled no-goal and can't even be challenged.
Hattrick Kane
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The Leafs are unintentionally boosting Kane’s Hart chances. Not only are the winning games easily without Matthews, they’ve shit out McDavid and Draisaitl in back to back games. So thanks Leafs!
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Habs fired Waite mid-game apparently.
Guess it's just easier to fire the goalie coach than Mr. Bad Contract.
Guess it's just easier to fire the goalie coach than Mr. Bad Contract.
JaegerDice
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crazyhawk
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I'm sorry .. these helmets are hideous.
I realize things change ... but these are beyond anything remotely within any degree of
class or aesthetic whatsoever.
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Only in Vegas I guess. At least I hope!
I realize things change ... but these are beyond anything remotely within any degree of
class or aesthetic whatsoever.
U - G - L - Y
Only in Vegas I guess. At least I hope!
Brightwing
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You cannot give McDavid the Hart after this series against the Leafs. The Hart isn't for bum slaying Ottawa and Vancouver. Zero points in three games. Edmonton shut out twice and loses the third 6-1.
ClydeLee
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Tampa might throw that back at Kane these 3 upcoming games though
Brightwing
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They gotta lose sometimes, might as well be to us.
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The Leafs are... good???
I bought low on the Mikhail Grabovski/Clarke MacArthur Leafs so long ago that I've just been conditioned to expect the most spectacular failure imaginable. This year they just look downright competent. It almost makes it less fun to have them as my second team now that they know what they're doing.
Almost.
I bought low on the Mikhail Grabovski/Clarke MacArthur Leafs so long ago that I've just been conditioned to expect the most spectacular failure imaginable. This year they just look downright competent. It almost makes it less fun to have them as my second team now that they know what they're doing.
Almost.
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That division is so unbelievably bad. Hard to say how real they really are at this point.
Brightwing
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Right? People were saying, oh the Leafs defense is so good because they beat Edmonton in that three-game series. But the Hawks beat them in the bubble and that wasn't years ago and no one said the Hawks had a good defense at the time. Now, I know we didn't shut them out twice, but still. It really is impossible to tell. I watched a bit of the game and some of Toronto's dmen looked good (Muzzin) while others struggled with moving the puck out of the zone. Their offense looked spectacular.
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I'm fully expecting the Leafs to cruise to the conference finals and then get knocked out in five once they face an actual contender to keep them out of the SCF.
Yep. But holy hell would it be amazing if they didn't make it past the first round again... HF would implode.
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It's impossible to compare the relative strength of divisions if there's no inter-division play. I'm not convinced the North is as bad as everyone says it is. Dom L. did an analysis where he found that of the top ten teams in the league, eight of them have faced, in aggregate, below-average competition--only Carolina and Washington have faced an above-average schedule.
Based on strength of schedule, the Leafs and Bruins have a pretty much identical expected winning percentages. Both teams are outpacing their expected numbers, but the Leafs' margin is three times larger than the Bruins. Vegas and Tampa both have easier schedules than Toronto, yet the Leafs are still first in the league. Those teams get to feast on objectively terrible competition for half the year--the California teams plus Arizona in the West, and Nashville/Columbus/Detroit in the Central. The Leafs get only two outright bad opponents (OTT and VAN) and a whole lot of middling teams--it's harder to rack up points when you're facing fewer teams that are outright tanking or rebuilding. The fact is that they held McDrai to one assist in three games, and that's impressive no matter how you slice it.
The middle four in the North (EDM/CGY/MTL/WPG) would have to be extraordinarily bad for the Leafs' 18-4-2 record to mean nothing in the grand scheme of things. This is a good team that's playing better hockey than in previous years--their results aren't exclusively the product of weaker competition--and they're finally free of the Atlantic division. This isn't to say that they're the best team in hockey right now, but at the very least they should be taken seriously if/when they reach the final four.
Based on strength of schedule, the Leafs and Bruins have a pretty much identical expected winning percentages. Both teams are outpacing their expected numbers, but the Leafs' margin is three times larger than the Bruins. Vegas and Tampa both have easier schedules than Toronto, yet the Leafs are still first in the league. Those teams get to feast on objectively terrible competition for half the year--the California teams plus Arizona in the West, and Nashville/Columbus/Detroit in the Central. The Leafs get only two outright bad opponents (OTT and VAN) and a whole lot of middling teams--it's harder to rack up points when you're facing fewer teams that are outright tanking or rebuilding. The fact is that they held McDrai to one assist in three games, and that's impressive no matter how you slice it.
The middle four in the North (EDM/CGY/MTL/WPG) would have to be extraordinarily bad for the Leafs' 18-4-2 record to mean nothing in the grand scheme of things. This is a good team that's playing better hockey than in previous years--their results aren't exclusively the product of weaker competition--and they're finally free of the Atlantic division. This isn't to say that they're the best team in hockey right now, but at the very least they should be taken seriously if/when they reach the final four.
ClydeLee
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Those teams would have to be bad.... those teams are bad.
Looking at bottom dwellers to say who is the worst division is one way. What about top threats? The Oilers and Habs aren't and nobody else but the Leafs are in the North.
Central has Tampa, Florida, Carolina... East has Boston, NYI, Washington... West has Vegas, Avs, Blues....
What does the North have, if you think the Jets are real or the Oilers Or Habs are gonna somehow turn it around eventually in the season. But it's a bunch of middling teams and 1 threat beyond vs every other league having multiple threats.
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Right, because the Hart voting should be based on a 3 game series. Or 1/2 a season.
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