Speculation: NHL 2021 Entry Draft -- "Don't Call It A Rebuild"
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Selected 2010 Kevin Hayes at 24 he ranks 22nd, refused to sign with Hawks even tho Chicago acquired his brother Kevin, who was traded for Kris Versteeg
2011 Mark McNeill and Phillip Danault at 18 and 26, McNeill was a bust but got us Oduya back, Danault ranks 31, traded for Weise and Fleischmann at trade deadline
2012 Teuvo Teravainen at 18 he ranks 15th, won a Cup and a salary dump assist
2013 Ryan Hartman at 30 he ranks 17th, traded for Beaudin and Kurashev
Traded up for 2014 Nick Schmaltz at 20 he ranks 18th, traded for Strome
2015 was a dud draft with no first rounder but Bowman went out and got #3 Dylan Strome in a trade
2016 Alex DeBrincat at 38 he ranks 6th
Traded down for 2017 Henri Jokiharju at 29 he ranks 8th, traded for Alex Nylander
2018 Adam Boqvist and Nicolas Braydon at 8 and 27 they rank 9th and 24th
2019 Kirby Dach at 3 he ranks 3rd
2020 Lukas Reichel at 17 and he's just beginning
Overall players selected (again these are only first round selections) proved to be better than the spot where they were drafted...
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NHL games played...ranked from that draft the number of NHL games played, which if I'm not mistaken is a 'proof in the pudding' measurement...
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Really need to stop feeding the troll so he goes back under the bridge.
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Drumman44
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This is really the only stat that matters. Are you going to draft an NHL player or not?
We would be beyond lucky to draft a Patrick Marleau this year...
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Ranking is not value, so in Marleaus' draft year he would have ranked number 1, don't have to look up the year as he is first in NHL games played but here's his draft class...
1-Joe Thornton
2-MARLEAU
3-Olli Jokinen
4-Roberto Luongo
5-Eric Brewer
6-Daniel Tkaczuk
7-Paul Mara
8-Sergei Samsonov
9-Nick Boynton
10-Brad Ference
11-Jason Ward
12-Marian Hossa
13-Dan Cleary, Chicago!
14-Michel Riesen
15-Matt Zultek
So yes Marleau would 'rank' first and as you see from that draft class he was a good pick, Hossa maybe might be the best, but look at all the dudes! That's what I'm trying to show with my 'rankings'...even Cleary, while he's no Hossa or Marleau he did end up playing 938 NHL games...ranking him 12th in the 1997 draft behind...
Marleau, Thornton, Hossa, Jokinen, Jason Chimera, Brian Campbell, Scott Hannan, Matt Cooke, Luongo, Brewer and Brendan Morrow...
I stand by my assessments
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I cant believe I even engaged in conversation with you yesterday.
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Yeah but....
Marleau is the best of any draft year and probably all time.
Not that I don't discourage this type of thinking, but there's a few flaws that need to be tweaked
So if a guy like Kampf plays 2 seasons more than a guy like DeBrincat that makes Kampf the better pick?
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Yeah I think he's in the conversation.
I don't like him as much as Lysell and Wallstedt who I think will also be available, but he's a solid prospect.
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His skating is a little questionable, no? Not too interested in guys with questionable skating.
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No, that's been overblown I think. He's a good skater, just not explosive. Better skater than Sillinger for example. Lucius plays an up-tempo game.
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Every crappy skater seems to get a "He is good skater -Insert area of skating he sucks at here-" statement
Here is a description of Strome from draft when it came to his skating
"working very hard to improve his acceleration and top-end speed"
Sound very similar to your "Just not explosive" statement and how many years now has Strome been working on his skating with no results?
Here is a description of Strome from draft when it came to his skating
"working very hard to improve his acceleration and top-end speed"
Sound very similar to your "Just not explosive" statement and how many years now has Strome been working on his skating with no results?
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I mean, Toews was never a burner...being smart is huge.
Also not sure how I feel taking a goalie that early while there are whispers of Lysell off ice drama.
Larmer83
I'm taking the high road moving forward.
Yes and no.
He was a better skater last year, despite what Hockey News writes. Prior to this season, he had a lower body injury and missed approximately 10 weeks of the start of the season. Most likely a knee requiring surgery. I read that due to the injury, he did not play the 2nd of back-to-back games.
Despite the injury, he turns well and has good lateral movement. IMO, he has the best wrist shot in this draft class- knows where to go, gets into shooting position, the puck is gone in a flash, can pick his spot. He's good on draws and has good hockey IQ. He is not a 200 foot center.
He'll be at the University of Minnesota next season. Might be longer than one season as his younger brother will join U of M in 2022-23.
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Buttons mock is up and has the Hawks taking Coronato.
I can get behind that, but I still hear the Hawks are looking defense.
And lol at Lysell. Button has him in the lower half of the first round.
You all have been duped
I can get behind that, but I still hear the Hawks are looking defense.
And lol at Lysell. Button has him in the lower half of the first round.
You all have been duped
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