Speculation: NHL 2021 Entry Draft -- "Don't Call It A Rebuild"

[dj Mahoney]

I think McTavish is the best Center in this year's draft, so he won't drop out of the top10. He's been at 9 in McKenzie's first ranking and has shown the best progress among Centermen since.

I don't dislike Swedes, I just didn't like the effort level of that WJC18 squad. Once trailing by 2, they just gave up and nobody gave a shit. Therefore, I expect Eklund and maybe also Wallstedt to go before McTavish but none of those quitters. This may be why I'm no NHL GM but if I was, I wouldn't draft any quitters. Yes, they're kids but that was unacceptable to me. I've never seen anything like this from a Swedish national team.

If McTavish can Improve his skating he's a keeper.

 

[RayP]

If McTavish can Improve his skating he's a keeper.

If Strome can improve his skating he’s a keeper.


Oh....

 

[Larmer83]

I think McTavish is the best Center in this year's draft, so he won't drop out of the top10. He's been at 9 in McKenzie's first ranking and has shown the best progress among Centermen since.

That's not quite a rational justification of McTavish being the best center. You cite the first McKenzie ranking of McTavish at #9 but the second ranking was #11. And he's not the best center, McKenzie has Beniers at #4 in both polls.

 

[dj Mahoney]

Craig’s List: Defencemen dominate top of NHL draft prospect rankings - TSN.ca

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

Craig’s List: Defencemen dominate top of NHL draft prospect rankings - TSN.ca

Kent Johnson available at #12? Yes please.

 

[Kevin Musto]

Kent Johnson available at #12? Yes please.

It's just a ranking not a mock.

I can tell you right now, Svechkov and L'Heureurx won't get drafted in the top 10.

Also Craig Button's rankings are lazy. He doesn't justify his choices.

 

[Ace Card Bedard]

At #13 we need a miracle to move up.

So...Lambos, Sillinger?
Maybe Lucius falls for some reason?
Someone will fall, right?

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

At #13 we need a miracle to move up.

So...Lambos, Sillinger?
Maybe Lucius falls for some reason?
Someone will fall, right?

Hopefully it's Johnson because he's so skinny

Nobody really fell last year though.

Perfetti and Lundell went a little lower than expected but not by that much.

 

[Muffinalt]

Id love to get a McTavish, Otthman or Stillman. Let's get some edge.

 

[Kevin Musto]

Hopefully it's Johnson because he's so skinny

Nobody really fell last year though.

Perfetti and Lundell went a little lower than expected but not by that much.

Yeah last year the top 10 went pretty much as expected.

But 2019 had Caufield fall out. Krebs too but that was injury-related.

2018 had Dobson.

So it happens. Lysell, Wallstedt, and Johnson are the ones that could slip this year if we're lucky.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

What is Lambos’ potential? Seems like most don’t think he’s a 1, but can he be a defensively-strong 2 that chips in points alongside Boqvist?

 

[Kevin Musto]

What is Lambos’ potential? Seems like most don’t think he’s a 1, but can he be a defensively-strong 2 that chips in points alongside Boqvist?

Top 4.

Pegging him as a 2D seems a bit lofty.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

Top 4.

Pegging him as a 2D seems a bit lofty.

Ugh.

Higher than any of the other LHD they have, or about the same?

 

[Kevin Musto]

Ugh.

Higher than any of the other LHD they have, or about the same?

At LHD we have Beaudin, Kalynuk, Phillips, and Kaiser...am I missing someone else?

He's excepted to be better than all of them. After all he is a unanimous 1st round talent. But I'm unsure that there's huge separation there.

Beaudin also has top 4 potential. Kalynuk had a good rookie season. Phillips probably top 6. Kaiser I could see having top 4 potential.

So Lambos comparative to the guys we have, might only be the difference between a 3D and a 4D, which is kind of marginal.

As far as LHD in our draft range go, I actually prefer Kirsanov (who we could probably grab in the 2nd round anyway) and Svozil more than Lambos, though it's not a big gap.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

At LHD we have Beaudin, Kalynuk, Phillips, and Kaiser...am I missing someone else?

He's excepted to be better than all of them. After all he is a unanimous 1st round talent. But I'm unsure that there's huge separation there.

Beaudin also has top 4 potential. Kalynuk had a good rookie season. Phillips probably top 6. Kaiser I could see having top 4 potential.

So Lambos comparative to the guys we have, might only be the difference between a 3D and a 4D, which is kind of marginal.

As far as LHD in our draft range go, I actually prefer Kirsanov (who we could probably grab in the 2nd round anyway) and Svozil more than Lambos, though it's not a big gap.

Are there any D that you’re seeing as absolutely being better than all the Hawks’s D, or at least all aside from Boqvist?

 

[Kevin Musto]

Are there any D that you’re seeing as absolutely being better than all the Hawks’s D, or at least all aside from Boqvist?

In this year's draft as a whole? Or within our range?

 

[Hinterland]

That's not quite a rational justification of McTavish being the best center. You cite the first McKenzie ranking of McTavish at #9 but the second ranking was #11. And he's not the best center, McKenzie has Beniers at #4 in both polls.

I think that McKenzie's lists are usually the closest you're gonna get so I mostly agree with them but I still don't really understand why McTavish fell from 9 to 11. Again, for me, he's the best Center in this years draft. Mostly due to a lack of competition, but for me it's clear and I wouldn't be surprised to see McTavish rise again on McKenzie's final list. In any way, he's not gonna fall to 13. That would be shocking.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

In this year's draft as a whole? Or within our range?

Top of the draft. Just in case someone falls, or Stan moves up.

 

[Hinterland]

Id love to get a McTavish, Otthman or Stillman. Let's get some edge.

I like McTavish and some analysts seem to disagree with me but I haven't seen McTavish play with an edge yet. Certainly not close from Othmann or Stillman who just love to run over everything that moves.

 

[dj Mahoney]

At LHD we have Beaudin, Kalynuk, Phillips, and Kaiser...am I missing someone else?

He's excepted to be better than all of them. After all he is a unanimous 1st round talent. But I'm unsure that there's huge separation there.

Beaudin also has top 4 potential. Kalynuk had a good rookie season. Phillips probably top 6. Kaiser I could see having top 4 potential.

So Lambos comparative to the guys we have, might only be the difference between a 3D and a 4D, which is kind of marginal.

As far as LHD in our draft range go, I actually prefer Kirsanov (who we could probably grab in the 2nd round anyway) and Svozil more than Lambos, though it's not a big gap.

Vlasic

 

[Larmer83]

Top 4.

Pegging him as a 2D seems a bit lofty.

If his potential is top 4, then the expectations would indicate bottom 6. If that's the case, he'd fall well into the second round.

He plays both the PP and PK. Excellent edges and backward skating. He won't wow with end to end rushes as that's not his game. Passes on tape. Strong IQ and is a solid defender. I'd say he's a better defender than the projected top 4 d-men. Good size and he has toughness.

The dark cloud is the undisclosed medical issue for which he had a procedure near the end of April. Some scouts were not particular thrilled with his play in Europe. This makes for a somewhat polarizing pick.

 

[Kevin Musto]

Vlasic

lmao I swear I didn't intentionally leave him off, but very on-brand for me to forget...

There's also Slava Demin who I think could be a bottom pairing defender.

 

[Kevin Musto]

Top of the draft. Just in case someone falls, or Stan moves up.

Luke Hughes is better than any D in our system.

Brandt Clarke and Owen Power would be equivalent to Boqvist imo.

 

[Kevin Musto]

I think that McKenzie's lists are usually the closest you're gonna get so I mostly agree with them but I still don't really understand why McTavish fell from 9 to 11. Again, for me, he's the best Center in this years draft. Mostly due to a lack of competition, but for me it's clear and I wouldn't be surprised to see McTavish rise again on McKenzie's final list. In any way, he's not gonna fall to 13. That would be shocking.

Better than Beniers? I don't think so

 

[dj Mahoney]

If Strome can improve his skating he’s a keeper.


Oh....

And go to the GYM with his Buddy ALEX ,,then back check,fore check put a decent effort in,,,,