Carl O'Steen said:EJ Hradek was just on ESPN radio, he seems very optimistic.
aww man here I go getting my hopes up again ....only to be dashed once again
Carl O'Steen said:EJ Hradek was just on ESPN radio, he seems very optimistic.
"This is not being done with the union," the source said.Jean Beliveau said:Why do you have to be so pessimistic about the mere possibility of a deal?
All of you who have given up are just sheeps blindly following the media.
The Messenger said:"This is not being done with the union," the source said.
It is not known whether the group will first approach NHL Players Association executive director Bob Goodenow to see if he will agree to present it to the league.
If not, the group might circumvent Goodenow and offer it directly to NHL commissioner Gary Bettman. A source familiar with labor negotiations said such a "back channel" communication violates labor law
Because "back channel" communication is the generally accepted tactic ..Tuggy said:
Why don't you add the last part of that sentence...violates labor law but is a generally accepted tactic.
Man you have selective hearing/reading just like Goodenow and Saskin.
The Messenger said:Because "back channel" communication is the generally accepted tatic ..
This is as silly as a notion that the Big Martket Owners could get together and make one up agreeing to the 49 mil cap and giving it to Goodenow without Bettman involved ..
The players, who were not identified but were said to be prominent, have allegedly met to formulate an offer, thought to be a $45 million salary cap, to present to the Players' Association executive committee.
"We'd have to vote on this," Philadelphia Flyers captain Keith Primeau told the Philadelphia Inquirer. "It would not fly unless this went through our executive committee. I've checked into these rumors myself. I have heard some names of who might be involved, and those names don't surprise me."
Thursday night, in an e-mail exchange with the South Florida Sun-Sentinel, NHL Executive Vice President Bill Daly was asked if the right deal were still presented, is there "any practical way to uncancel the season?"
"It may be tough to undo some of the transactions that have already occurred as a result of the season cancellation," Daly said. "But I'm not prepared to rule out anything at this point in time."
Key point being ...Bruins4419 said:Another article: Faction reportedly trying to save season
Well-placed sources said Thursday that Gretzky, managing partner of the Phoenix Coyotes, and Lemieux, player-owner of the Pittsburgh Penguins, spoke to Bettman in an effort to explore whether the season could be salvaged. Sources said Trevor Linden, president of the NHL Players' Assn., and Mike Gartner, the union's director of business relations, met with Bettman in New York on Thursday while players expressed concern about the failed negotiations to the union's Toronto office.
The activity, several sources said, might result in players pressuring union chief Bob Goodenow to propose a deal that would include a salary cap set from $45 million to $46 million, and a prohibitive luxury tax. The union's last offer, made on Tuesday, set the cap at $49 million; the NHL's final offer, also made Tuesday, was for a $42.5-million cap that wasn't linked to league-wide revenue.
Bettman and other NHL executives were contacted Thursday by a few owners who expressed anxiety about the economic damage a cancellation might cause. Bettman was said to be out of his New York office most of the day and unavailable for comment.
The Messenger said:Key point being ...
"We'd have to vote on this," Philadelphia Flyers captain Keith Primeau told the Philadelphia Inquirer. "It would not fly unless this went through our executive committee.
and the NHLPA committee President Trevor Linden said :
Asked if he thinks there are players working behind the scenes, NHLPA President Trevor Linden told the Philadelphia Inquirer, "I say it's absolutely not true, but guys are pretty shocked [we're not playing]. There is no chance that we will be presenting something to [the NHL].
Ofcourse he's saying that... they dont want to mess this up. Mike Modano also said he was disenfranchised by Bob Goodenow too. Is the union so solid now that Yzerman, Sakic, and Modano have dissented to a degree?The Messenger said:Key point being ...
"We'd have to vote on this," Philadelphia Flyers captain Keith Primeau told the Philadelphia Inquirer. "It would not fly unless this went through our executive committee.
and the NHLPA committee President Trevor Linden said :
Asked if he thinks there are players working behind the scenes, NHLPA President Trevor Linden told the Philadelphia Inquirer, "I say it's absolutely not true, but guys are pretty shocked [we're not playing]. There is no chance that we will be presenting something to [the NHL].
pei fan said:Can the moderators remove or lock this thread.How many threads do we need
saying the same thing and it's all garbage anyway.THE SEASON IS OVER!
Jean Beliveau said:Why do you have to be so pessimistic about the mere possibility of a deal?
All of you who have given up are just sheeps blindly following the media.
Thunderstruck said:Many PA supporters would rather see the season cancelled than have the PA cave.
Thunderstruck said:Many PA supporters would rather see the season cancelled than have the PA cave.
ScottyBowman said:Get real. Its Feb 18th today and the people that are waiting for some kind of agreement and a reversal of the cancellation, are the same people who will be looking for the Easter bunny in April. The season is over, TURN THE PAGE.
hubofhockey said:There were at least a million ways to get clever about closing the gap betweeen $42.5 milion and $49 million -- either via crunching of the numbers to a middle ground, or via hammering away on the 5-6 most significant issues elsewhere in the CBA (to wit: arbitration, entry-level salaries, UFA age, the buyout clause).
And what did the Just-Say-No Players' Association do?
The JSNPA just said NO.
Lack of imagination. Lack of sincerity. Greed an stupidity ruled the union at the VERY MOMENT it needed reason, clarity and true intelligence.
No matter what happens from here, that will ALWAYS be the truth.
kpd/hoh