News & Notes Thread Part VI: "Where the Hell is the News Thread?" Editon

[bleedgreen]

While it ain't great news, at least it's not his head.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Muller didn't sound concerned. Seems precautionary.

Forgive me for sounding skeptical, but when Skinner had his last two concussions, Muller said he didn't have concussion symptoms. I take what he says regarding injuries with a bit of a grain of salt.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

A 2nd opinion is usually the result of not liking the 1st opinion!

That could be. Or it also could be that it isn't healing as quickly as they thought so they want a 2nd opinion to ensure they aren't missing something or there aren't other options.

 

[cptjeff]

Best offensive player, and I suspect he's not going to play again this month.

I think you meant to say "only offensive player".

 

[What the Faulk]

Forgive me for sounding skeptical, but when Skinner had his last two concussions, Muller said he didn't have concussion symptoms. I take what he says regarding injuries with a bit of a grain of salt.

Concussions are tougher to predict, but also, FWIW, I don't recall either Muller or anyone saying specifically wrist, and the team website says upper body.

http://downloads.hurricanes.nhl.com/audio1314/muller110413.mp3

4:20 he talks about Skinner.

 

[TheBigKahuna]

I think you meant to say "only offensive player".

No, I give Gerbe credit where it's due!

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Concussions are tougher to predict,

While they may be harder to predict, everybody and their brother knew he had a concussion. To come out and say he doesn't have one was ridiculous. Especially in the one case where Rutherford came out shortly after Muller made the statement and said he did.

Joni was supposed to be ready to start the season, only to find out he'll miss the whole season.

Khudobin was only supposed to miss 1 week, and is now beginning his 4th week of the injury.

Jeff Skinner was "Day to Day" when he was injured on 10/24 and is now getting a 2nd opinion as he approaches missing 2 weeks.

Cam Ward was injured on 10/24 and according to the Canes, would miss 3-4 weeks, so we should see him back by 11/15 or 11/22 ish.

The NHL is typically mum on injuries (upper body, lower body, etc..) but the Canes management seem to have a history of under-estimating (or reporting them that way) some of these key injuries. I realize that recovery time is different for every person and some of these are very tough to predict. Is this really the same as with other teams? (I don't follow them closely enough).

 

[Ole Gil]

The reason we think it's 'wrist' is the video of Skinner coming back onto the bench and flexing one of his hands repeatedly like something was wrong with it before leaving again. Wrist, hand, finger, forearm...his actions made it look like something to do with that area of his body, rather than a head thing.

Although, I missed that collision rayman was talking about. That'd be some real sadness if that were the problem.

 

[PaulProteus]

The wife and I were at the STH event last week, and while we don't do the autograph lines, I heard that Skinner was appearing but would not be signing anything.

That seems to be more indicative of hand/wrist/lower arm problems, than, well, anything I've heard so far.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Murphy fined for the clip on Dorsett.

While the money wasn't much, for something so close (even some Rangers fans in their GDT were at odds over whether it was a clean hit or too low) the max fine seems a bit harsh.

Oh well. Glad he's not suspended, I guess...

 

[cptjeff]

Murphy fined for the clip on Dorsett.

While the money wasn't much, for something so close (even some Rangers fans in their GDT were at odds over whether it was a clean hit or too low) the max fine seems a bit harsh.

Oh well. Glad he's not suspended, I guess...

Yeah, that's weird. Clipping is a minor penalty. It was clipping, and he got called for it. Shouldn't that be the end of it?

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Yeah, that's weird. Clipping is a minor penalty. It was clipping, and he got called for it. Shouldn't that be the end of it?

According the the CBA, the league can impose additional disciplinary action to any violation of the rules if they deem it reckless or dangerous. Sounds like they think the hit was a bit reckless and wanted to nip it in the bud.

18.1 Supplementary Discipline for On-Ice Conduct. "Supplementary Discipline for On-Ice Conduct" means any supplementary discipline imposed by the Commissioner or his designee for Player conduct either on the ice or in the Player or penalty bench areas vis-à-vis other participants in the game (i.e., other Players, coaches or on-ice officials) in violation of the League Playing Rules. Supplementary Discipline for On-Ice Conduct may take the form of a fine or a suspension.

18.2 General. It is the parties' intention to impose Supplementary Discipline for On-Ice Conduct in a swift, effective and consistent manner with respect to conduct proscribed by League Playing Rules, including the use of excessive and unnecessary force and reckless acts resulting in injury. In doing so, however, the parties do not intend to alter the basic fabric of our game. In deciding on Supplementary Discipline for On-Ice Conduct, the following factors will
be taken into account:

(a) The type of conduct involved: conduct in violation of League Playing Rules, and
whether the conduct is intentional or reckless, and involves the use of excessive and unnecessary force. Players are responsible for the consequences of their actions.

 

[dogbazinho]

According the the CBA, the league can impose additional disciplinary action to any violation of the rules if they deem it reckless or dangerous. Sounds like they think the hit was a bit reckless and wanted to nip it in the bud.

And yet they couldn't find a rule to fine or suspend Emery as of yet.

 

[tarheelhockey]

The wife and I were at the STH event last week, and while we don't do the autograph lines, I heard that Skinner was appearing but would not be signing anything.

I went through that line with one of the rugrats. They had Skinner posing for photos instead of signing. And it might not mean anything since he didn't have a cast on, but in the photos I took he is noticeably holding his right hand inside the sleeve of his jersey.

 

[raynman]

I wish I would've been able to dvr the game so I could go back and confirm the collision I'm talking about. He didn't take any shifts after the collision. I'm guessing it must've further injured his wrist/forearm whatever it is.

 

[w e l o s t b o y s]

Hopefully the fine doesn't make Murphy wary of going for the hip check in the future, I've been loving them so far this year.

 

[Zezima]

The Murphy hit was reckless and he got off light. A more experienced player would've been suspended.

 

[Vagrant]

If Skinner was posing for flash photography, we can likely rule out concussion based on that factor alone. Source: not a doctor but has heard about concussions.

 

[tarheelhockey]

If Skinner was posing for flash photography, we can likely rule out concussion based on that factor alone. Source: not a doctor but has heard about concussions.

Yeah, not only was he doing flash photography but they actually got up in his face with a video floodlight at one point. He definitely didn't show any symptoms of a guy struggling with concussions... was laughing, horsing around, etc despite all the flashes going off.

 

[TheBigKahuna]

If he has a concussion, it would be from hitting himself in the head with that cast he;s wearing on his wrist! It takes a few days to get used to those things!

 

[What the Faulk]

Ward is "ahead of schedule", but given how long he's been out, it seems he's right on schedule. Khudobin also skated lightly today, and Skinner is still day to day.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Carolina Hurricanes ‏@NHLCanes 1m
NEWS: #Canes to recall Chris Terry from @CheckersHockey, assign Elias Lindholm to Charlotte. Details: http://m.carhur.com/01DCn

Wow, color me surprised, and a bit confused.

I was hoping Terry would come up, didn't expect it to be in exchange for Lindholm, though.

 

[La Huracanista]

Wow, color me surprised, and a bit confused.

I was hoping Terry would come up, didn't expect it to be in exchange for Lindholm, though.

It's going to be so much better for Lindholm's development, though.

His Corsi numbers are atrocious. Which is normal for an 18 year old kid, so thank goodness he's European and can go develop in the AHL.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

It's going to be so much better for Lindholm's development, though.

His Corsi numbers are atrocious. Which is normal for an 18 year old kid, so thank goodness he's European and can go develop in the AHL.

While we're pointing stuff out, then, we should probably point out that Jordan Staal's Corsi and Fenwick are both way in front for the Canes -- and considering he's facing top lines every night, that's pretty damned good.

--hank

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Ward is "ahead of schedule", but given how long he's been out, it seems he's right on schedule. Khudobin also skated lightly today, and Skinner is still day to day.

For Ward, they said originally 3-4 weeks when he was injured on 10/24. So mid-late November would be right on schedule. Unless he starts skating in a few days from now, I agree, he's probably right on schedule.