News from Around the AHL/NHL/KHL 2019-20 Pt. V

[PK Cronin]

July 10 is the tentative Date for opening “training camps”

safe to say next season won’t start until maybe January.

If they push it back far enough the NHL players can finally go to the Olympics without interfering with the season when the time comes!

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

I am interpreting that the plan is to have the Stanley played out by mid-September, then have the season start before November.

Things such as an All-Star break etc. will then be cut out.

 

[YearlyLottery]

I am interpreting that the plan is to have the Stanley played out by mid-September, then have the season start before November.

Things such as an All-Star break etc. will then be cut out.

I would be very surprised (and happy) if the season starts in November, let alone BEFORE November.

I have no issues with having a hockey season start around Thanksgiving and end in the middle of the summer, but the main problem is going to be once fans are introduced back in the ice is going to be absolutely awful. I still have not heard a reasonable answer for how to fix this.

 

[PK Cronin]

I would be very surprised (and happy) if the season starts in November, let alone BEFORE November.

I have no issues with having a hockey season start around Thanksgiving and end in the middle of the summer, but the main problem is going to be once fans are introduced back in the ice is going to be absolutely awful. I still have not heard a reasonable answer for how to fix this.

PVC pipes?

 

[MJF]

PVC pipes?

I know a rink in Brooklyn that has them.

 

[Lame Lambert]

I know a rink in Brooklyn that has them.

You mean a basketball arena?

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

Here's an article from The Athletic listing the 15 worst NHL free agents of the last decade

By the numbers: The 15 worst NHL free agents of the last...

Can you guess who #13 on that list is?

 

[MJF]

Here's an article from The Athletic listing the 15 worst NHL free agents of the last decade

By the numbers: The 15 worst NHL free agents of the last...

Can you guess who #13 on that list is?

Without looking I'm gonna say it's Andrew Ladd, and only #13???

 

[Kevin27NYI]

Without looking I'm gonna say it's Andrew Ladd, and only #13???

There's a lot of bad deals out there.

 

[MJF]

There's a lot of bad deals out there.

I’ll take your word for it. I can’t read the article because I cancelled my subscription to The Athletic in February.

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

I’ll take your word for it. I can’t read the article because I cancelled my subscription to The Athletic in February.

Interestingly, the Devils' deal with Kovalchuk was deemed the worst (Lamoriello was the GM).

But that naturally could have happened to anyone. Still rough to think that your star player who is earning 10 MM per just picks up and heads out after two seasons.

 

[SI90]

We may not be done with Barclays. That sucks.

 

[xECK29x]

We may not be done with Barclays. That sucks.

Better then having nothing

 

[SI90]

Better then having nothing

100%
Belmont can’t get here soon enough! Then we never have to deal with any of these arena issues ever again

 

[SI90]

Hold the phone....

 

[MJF]

Hold the phone....

We’ve got a long way to go until next season starts. Lots of time to figure out Plan B.

 

[danteipp]

Given the debt owed on the Coliseum, the lenders wanting to recoup whatever they can, and the state and counties interest in keeping the venue viable; I would think that they should all try to work together to keep the Islanders there for as many games as possible.

Of course, that would require concessions and common sense, which is typically lost under these circumstances. Especially since political parties and opportunists will probably let ego get in the way.

It is amazing that the NBA and politicians repeatedly failed to see the dangers of dealing with someone like Prokhorov. The guy makes money for himself and leaves disaster in his wake. He is all about spectacle and a quick flip so he can cash out.

 

[MJF]

Given the debt owed on the Coliseum, the lenders wanting to recoup whatever they can, and the state and counties interest in keeping the venue viable; I would think that they should all try to work together to keep the Islanders there for as many games as possible.

Of course, that would require concessions and common sense, which is typically lost under these circumstances. Especially since political parties and opportunists will probably let ego get in the way.

It is amazing that the NBA and politicians repeatedly failed to see the dangers of dealing with someone like Prokhorov. The guy makes money for himself and leaves disaster in his wake. He is all about spectacle and a quick flip so he can cash out.

The county didn’t originally start out dealing with Prokhorov. He bought out Forest City Ratner and Bruce Ratner as his partner when he wanted to get out. So Prokhorov ended up with the Nets, Barclays, and the Coliseum lease.

 

[The Lighthouse]

The county didn’t originally start out dealing with Prokhorov. He bought out Forest City Ratner and Bruce Ratner as his partner when he wanted to get out. So Prokhorov ended up with the Nets, Barclays, and the Coliseum lease.

Talk about having a losing hand.

 

[danteipp]

The county didn’t originally start out dealing with Prokhorov. He bought out Forest City Ratner and Bruce Ratner as his partner when he wanted to get out. So Prokhorov ended up with the Nets, Barclays, and the Coliseum lease.

That is very interesting, if only because the Coliseum contract was then assigned to Prokhorov as part of the overall deal and ownership transfer.

You would think that the assignment would have been in full accordance with the original contract terms, negotiated between the county and Ratner.

So, if Prokhorov can indeed legally shutter the Coliseum and abandon his responsibilities, then presumably the county did a poor job negotiating the original agreement or it was modified as part of the assignment.

Given the stakes to the county, with the debt outlay and monetary expenditures, it should have been ironclad. Presumably even with the suspension of activities and income due to Covid.

It should really make for a fascinating case and litigation, assuming it isn't just posturing for some concessions or bargaining power. I bet municipalities with arenas/stadiums and their lawyers are revisiting contracts right now and pouring over the fine print.

 

[The Lighthouse]

That is very interesting, if only because the Coliseum contract was then assigned to Prokhorov as part of the overall deal and ownership transfer.

You would think that the assignment would have been in full accordance with the original contract terms, negotiated between the county and Ratner.

So, if Prokhorov can indeed legally shutter the Coliseum and abandon his responsibilities, then presumably the county did a poor job negotiating the original agreement or it was modified as part of the assignment.

Given the stakes to the county, with the debt outlay and monetary expenditures, it should have been ironclad. Presumably even with the suspension of activities and income due to Covid.

It should really make for a fascinating case and litigation, assuming it isn't just posturing for some concessions or bargaining power. I bet municipalities with arenas/stadiums and their lawyers are revisiting contracts right now and pouring over the fine print.

Not sure if the play here is some hope the County will help out with some of that debt or let Onexim off the hook for its obligation to run the place, or both.

Either way I agree what the County does next is going to be very interesting.

 

[danteipp]

Not sure if the play here is some hope the County will help out with some of that debt or let Onexim off the hook for its obligation to run the place, or both.

Either way I agree what the County does next is going to be very interesting.

Agreed, I assume it is a way to test the waters to either try to gain concessions (from the County and/or debt holders) or try to have the agreement outright terminated.

Presumably the County will be issuing a formal letter shortly in response, to try and hold them to their obligations.

It is going to be a tough spot for all involved to come up with a mutually-agreeable plan in this environment.

 

[The Lighthouse]

Agreed, I assume it is a way to test the waters to either try to gain concessions (from the County and/or debt holders) or try to have the agreement outright terminated.

Presumably the County will be issuing a formal letter shortly in response, to try and hold them to their obligations.

It is going to be a tough spot for all involved to come up with a mutually-agreeable plan in this environment.

One thing is that as the losses from the shutdown mount, I don't think it will be in anyone's interest for that building to sit empty if the state allow for events next year. The County will need all the revenue it can get. Lenders won't want to have to go through the hassle of enforcing debt collection if they can avoid it. So with the time we have until any potential fans in seats, I think it's likely to be worked out.

 

[LeapOnOver]

Here's an article from The Athletic listing the 15 worst NHL free agents of the last decade

By the numbers: The 15 worst NHL free agents of the last...

Can you guess who #13 on that list is?

They released the counter to this list (The 15 Best free Agents) and we had number #13 (I think that was the placement) on the list. It was Brad Boyes, lol.

 

[bstash19]

“According the lawsuit, players in the class were, among other things, forced to masturbate in front of teammates and coaches and forced to sexually assault teammates, to consume saliva, urine, semen and feces of other players and to sexually engage with animals”

Jesus. I can only image what else is going to come out now.
https://thehockeynews.com/news/arti...-against-junior-hockey-in-newly-filed-lawsuit
More explosive and shocking allegations against junior hockey in newly filed lawsuit - TheHockeyNews