News Article: News and Notes XXV: Higher than the Highest Boss

[Unsustainable]

It's gonna be like Shark week.

Or Shart week

 

[Unsustainable]

Or maybe Darling couldn't be trusted in a place called Bojangles Coliseum.

Fat joke.

 

[GoldiFox]

No Darling until Sunday at the earliest. Waddell said the situation is a bit wait-and-see as far as carrying all the goalies.

He can’t comment on other team’s players who might be holding out. However through a series of hypotheticals it is clear that the Canes are very interested in players like Nylander and they believe they have the pieces to get a deal done. What Toronto decides to do will be up to them but it’s nice to hear essentially confirmation that the Canes are open to adding that kind of talent and salary.

 

[AD Skinner]

Or maybe Darling couldn't be trusted in a place called Bojangles Coliseum.

"I can't build you a coliseum actually made of Bojangles it would melt"

"Not if it never rains"

 

[A Star is Burns]

New Athletic story on Boychuk. Haven't read it yet, but know everyone has to be interested.

Zach Boychuk is following you on Twitter, too? There's...

ETA: Just goes over the obvious that he followed everyone to make money and get free stuff. Still an interesting read.

 

[MinJaBen]

Darling return leads to questions about when he starts. Chip has some insights as to what that means...

Brind’Amour said he was not sure when Darling would make his first start, saying, “Obviously soon. We’ll get him up, get him in the groove of everything and then make our decision.”

Canes recall goalie Scott Darling from Checkers

 

[Surrounded By Ahos]

Fat joke.

Says the guy who just made a fart joke.

Or Shart week

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

He can’t comment on other team’s players who might be holding out.

Minor nitpick of Waddells cover: Yes he can, Nylander is a free agent.

 

[A Star is Burns]

Is that true? He's still Maple Leafs property. I would think that's still tampering even if he isn't under contract.

 

[Chrispy]

Is that true? He's still Maple Leafs property. I would think that's still tampering even if he isn't under contract.

There are no tampering rules about a player who is not under contract. The Canes could talk privately directly to Nylander about a contract; that's how an offer sheet would happen. They can talk publicly about the idea of an offer sheet or trading for his rights.

Should they talk publicly about Nylander? No.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

Of-fer-sheet! Of-fer-sheet!

 

[BB88]

Good article about Aho, the scouting of him prior to the draft, and his next contract from Custance on the Athletic.

Sebastian Aho is the budding star Carolina is willing to wager on


I really liked this part:

Read the Finnish article based on that, was a nice read but what caught my eye was using Barkov and his contract as a model for Aho, 5.9Mx6 today is (about) impossible.

 

[A Star is Burns]

There are no tampering rules about a player who is not under contract. The Canes could talk privately directly to Nylander about a contract; that's how an offer sheet would happen. They can talk publicly about the idea of an offer sheet or trading for his rights.

Should they talk publicly about Nylander? No.

Of course they could talk contract. I meant more of the public side of things. I don't hear much publicly about things in this situation from other teams, so I'd still be interested to see a source for this.

 

[Unsustainable]

Says the guy who just made a fart joke.

There’s a bit more then a fart to my joke.

 

[Negan4Coach]

New Athletic story on Boychuk. Haven't read it yet, but know everyone has to be interested.

Zach Boychuk is following you on Twitter, too? There's...

ETA: Just goes over the obvious that he followed everyone to make money and get free stuff. Still an interesting read.

I thought Boychuk would be helping LaRose build houses around Raleigh by now.

 

[Lempo]

Of course they could talk contract. I meant more of the public side of things. I don't hear much publicly about things in this situation from other teams, so I'd still be interested to see a source for this.

Good luck with that. The NHL By-Laws aren't public, and so isn't the By-Law 15 about Tampering. Everything we get to hear comes from the news reporting when someone is investigated of breaching one. Hockey law geeks were exctatic when a part became public during Coyotes bankruptcy process.

But, Tampering essentially is a Circumvention of the CBA as defined in CBA 26.3, specifically a Circumvention of the Exclusive negotiation rights of another team stated in the CBA, by signalling in any way to a player under such rights that you'd like to have him maybe even on a better deal than his current team is offering. When someone is a Free Agent (a legit one as of July 1st, not a pending one in May or suchlike), it specifically means that his now-former team doesn't anymore have such Exclusive negotiation rights to Tamper on but he can be legally negotiated with and offered a SPC by any team. With a Restricted Free Agent, his former team has the right of first refusal to such negotiated SPC presented in the form of an Offer Sheet.

Doing things in public just may not be a smart thing for other reasons: you'd sillily give needless leverage for Nylander to up his ask if you went too loud in public about wanting him, because then you'd lose face if you won't get him in the end, and will give out optics of being a crappy place where FAs don't want to come.

Fun read of how smart people tamper:
Violation of tampering by-law in the NHL!?

Friedman went on to explain that players and agents were in the middle of tampering situations, with specifics examples. GMs across the NHL are getting the hang of this:

“I had one agent flat-out tell me one time he had a conversation six months before his player got to free agency and said, ‘I’m not doing my job if I don’t test the market,’ “ said Friedman. “So he calls up a GM he thinks he’ll be interested in him and… they never mention names. ‘Will you be looking for a left-shot D next year?’

“‘Yeah. I’m looking for someone about 28 years old. Left-shot D. Maybe has a pedigree from the Western Hockey League.’

“So basically they’re doing everything except mentioning the name. And that’s kind of the way things go.”

 

[Finnish Jerk Train]

Good luck with that. The NHL By-Laws aren't public, and so isn't the By-Law 15 about Tampering. Everything we get to hear comes from the news reporting when someone is investigated of breaching one. Hockey law geeks were exctatic when a part became public during Coyotes bankruptcy process.

"Only the governors are privy to the bylaws. It says so right here in the bylaws."
"Well you show me where it says that."
"You are prohibited from seeing the bylaws, it says so in the bylaws!"

+1000 likes for the first guy who knows which movie this comes from.

 

[Lempo]

"You are prohibited from seeing the bylaws, it says so right here in the bylaws."

+1000 likes for anyone who can name the hockey movie this comes from.

For what's it worth, the answer is easily googleable from the Net.

But they sure do address my pain there appropriately.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

"Only the governors are provi to the bylaws. It says so right here in the bylaws."
"Well you show me where it says that."
"You are prohibited from seeing the bylaws, it says so in the bylaws!"

+1000 likes for the first guy who knows which movie this comes from.

Catch 22

 

[Finnish Jerk Train]

For what's it worth, the answer is easily googleable from the Net.

But they sure do address my pain there appropriately.

But... but... I thought I knew something that you guys didn't, which would probably be a first for me.

 

[Lempo]

Catch 22

No that's a war pilot film.

 

[Lempo]

But... but... I thought I knew something that you guys didn't, which would probably be a first for me.

I thought I got some serious intel, and you come tell me they had made a movie of it already twenty years back!

 

[Finnish Jerk Train]

I thought I got some serious intel, and you come tell me they had made a movie of it already twenty years back!

Not just a movie, but a TV movie.

Although I have to say it's pretty good for a TV movie. Worth watching, especially since there aren't many decent hockey movies out there.

 

[Lempo]

Not just a movie, but a TV movie.

Although I have to say it's pretty good for a TV movie. Worth watching, especially since there aren't many decent hockey movies out there.

TV movies are the real deal. The makers of them know that their movies have to stand solidly on their own feet, with the audience not getting fooled by the grandeur of the cinema house and the big names on the marquee and not having to pretend that they didn't just spend $200 altogether to utter crap.

 

[The Faulker 27]

Are TV movie's still a thing? In the traditional sense that is. I don't have cable, just YTTV and various streaming services such as Netflix. I suppose the Netflix original movies would be considered a TV movie then. Some of those are legit.