Good I hope he does keep sucking. Thew ings need high picks not 26 year old goalies at this point. Hopefully they trade Howard next deadline too
2008 Stanley Cup Champions
2009 Stanley Cup Finalists
That's more than about 85% of the league has accomplished in the cap era.
He inherited a great team with the best owner in all of sport, won the lottery twice with Pav and Z and had a hockey genius advising him.
If the Wings get Dahlin.... a turn around might take 2-3 years. Mrazek would be 29.
Inherited a great team? He he's been with the organization since 1985. He worked his way up to director of amateur scouting and then eventually assistant GM over a 12 year span. I don't know why people act like Holland just showed up randomly one day.
Inherited a great team? He he's been with the organization since 1985. He worked his way up to director of amateur scouting and then eventually assistant GM over a 12 year span. I don't know why people act like Holland just showed up randomly one day.[/QUOTE
When he became the ultimate decision maker they were a great team.
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If the Wings get Dahlin.... a turn around might take 2-3 years. Mrazek would be 29.
If the Wings get Dahlin.... a turn around might take 2-3 years. Mrazek would be 29.
Inherited a great team? He he's been with the organization since 1985. He worked his way up to director of amateur scouting and then eventually assistant GM over a 12 year span. I don't know why people act like Holland just showed up randomly one day.
After Bowman left, the team has been in constant decline and Holland has made so many stupid moves.Because it makes their bull crap argument make more sense to them.
2008 Stanley Cup Champions
2009 Stanley Cup Finalists
That's more than about 85% of the league has accomplished in the cap era.
With a hockey genius as an advisor.Holland was awarded the job during a power struggle.
The velvet camp, led by Jimmy Devellano, didn't like how much power Scotty Bowman wielded in the organization.
Jimmy lobbied the Ilitches hard to knock Bowman down and install Holland.
It's why we got Screwie Lewie, part of Jimmy D's velvet camp, as coach in 02-03.
Fortunately, Holland realized that Lewis couldn't cut through the country club and he hired Babcock.
Full marks to Holland for the work he did from 04 to 08... but I think he started screwing up about the time he signed Cleary to the five year deal. It was a sign of things to come.
Exactly could have traded Howard this year. Qualified mrazek gave him a chance to show you he is legit or not. If he is greasy, if he’s not we get a good understanding of what we have (prospects) and can trade for or sign a free agent goalie depending on where we are as a team
When Bowman was advising him.I really liked what Holland did coming out of that first lockout. That guy was aggressive in re-shaping this club. I sorta wish Ilitch would give Holland an internal cap just to force him to get more creative. I don't think the extra cautious approach of the past six or so years just has done well by him and has been out of character a bit compared to how he managed the club before that.
When Bowman was advising him.
Babcock absolutely played a part in some of the vets staying around longer than needed.The Holland-Cleary thing always rubbed me wrong. Never have i seen a guy brought back year after year despite being 100% worthless to us. towards the end he was a healthy scratch more often than not. Yet he got signed again. and again.
I really liked what Holland did coming out of that first lockout. That guy was aggressive in re-shaping this club. I sorta wish Ilitch would give Holland an internal cap just to force him to get more creative. I don't think the extra cautious approach of the past six or so years just has done well by him and has been out of character a bit compared to how he managed the club before that.
So if something extremely unlikely happens, theres a chance that they COULD turn it around in 2-3 years and be good again. But it will likely not happen like that and a 2 year turn around seems generous. In all honestly Mrazek is closer to 32 or 33 before the wings contend again.
What would you say if the wings got nothing for him this TDL?
Babcock absolutely played a part in some of the vets staying around longer than needed.
The whole damn team shit the bed not just the goalie.He had literally three years to show whether he was worth a damn or not. He spent two of them soiling himself in net.
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