HF Habs: Montreal Canadiens Draft (#3, #35, #38, #56, #62, #66, #97, #102, #122 & #128)

[SakuKoivu11]

1st Svechnikov/Zadina
2nd Sandin/O’Brien/Beaudin/Wise/Kaut/Bokk
3rd Lundqvist/Ylonen
4th Groulx/Merkley/Mcbain

 

[Habs76]

1st Svechnikov/Zadina
2nd Sandin/O’Brien/Beaudin/Wise/Kaut/Bokk
3rd Lundqvist/Ylonen
4th Groulx/Merkley/Mcbain

None of those 4ths will be there.

Ylonen MIGHT be there in the 3rd

Bokk, Kaut and probably Sandin will be gone in the 2nd.

 

[The Great Weal]

#3: Adam Boqvist
#35: Rasmus Sandin
#38: Bulat Shafigullin
#56: Cameron Hillis
#58: Jay O’Brien
#66: Daniil Zhuravlyov
#97: Linus Nyman
#102: Ty Emberson
#123: Niklas Nordgren
#128: Semyon Der-Arguchintsev

I'll eat a hat if Semyon makes it that far. The rest are realistic.

 

[sandviper]

I'll eat a hat if Semyon makes it that far. The rest are realistic.

Yeah, I like Semyon and as I was whipping that together I realized I didn’t put him in there.

 

[Natey]

Chyzowski please.

Also.. f*** safe picks this year. Go for a homerun or two.

 

[LyricalLyricist]

I’m greedy. I want even more picks on top 2 rounds.

 

[Habs100]

This is basically two drafts in 1 without 6th or 7th round picks.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

would be so pissed if they picked a goalie at all. They are knee deep in goalie prospects, they don't have good trade value and there are several quality undrafted FA goalies that I would look at before wasting a pick when we have so many holes to fill from all positions not named goalie.

Fucale is a fringe prospect. McNiven is on the smaller side. Primeau has showed promise and Hawkey is still a question mark.

While we are knee deep there aren't a lot of good ones.

With that said Ufas is one area to look. Goalies also don't seem to have much value when they're traded. Keyword is when, though. Rarely do you see a high-end goalie dealt. Way more often than not it's a promising back up.

 

[The Great Weal]

Yeah, I like Semyon and as I was whipping that together I realized I didn’t put him in there.

I would also hope that we trade McCarron to Detroit for their 2 6ths. Couple late round gambles I would love to pick.

 

[LyricalLyricist]

I would also hope that we trade McCarron to Detroit for their 2 6ths. Couple late round gambles I would love to pick.

I don't see them trading McCarron yet, let alone for 6ths...

 

[The Great Weal]

I don't see them trading McCarron yet, let alone for 6ths...

He's going to clear waivers anyway. Might as well take advantage of what iota of value remains.

 

[Wats]

The 2nd round could be what changes the future of the franchise.

Or like Chicago in 2010 it could mean nothing. They had four 2nd round picks. You don't know the name of any of them.

It's not like Bergevin was part of Hawks scouting in 2010, we're good.

 

[mariolemieux66]

What is the most picks a team can have at the draft?
I think i read 12 somewhere, is ot accurate?

 

[LyricalLyricist]

He's going to clear waivers anyway. Might as well take advantage of what iota of value remains.

I think more value to us.

Ghetto, Hudon and plenty others clear waivers no?

6th is a little low. McCarron is as good a project(better) than a 6th rounder anyway.

I think he'll bust but meh, might as well ride it out.

 

[admiralcadillac]

Big fan of Jürgen Arsholin in the 3rd-4th rounds

 

[yianik]

Here's an article from last year showing draft pick success rate:

https://www.tsn.ca/statistically-speaking-nhl-draft-pick-value-1.786131

From 1990-2013 the chances of drafting a top 6 forward/top 4 defenceman/number 1 goalie in the 2nd round was not much higher than 10%. We will be very lucky to get one good player out of the four 2nds. Third liners or third pairing D would also be good picks though.

Scanning random draft years in hockeydb you typically find 3-4 good NHLers in the 2nd round. It's up to the scouts to find these guys. Timmins needs to get it done this year.

Yeah, my research was that you can get about 10 NHL players in the 2nd , of whom 3 turn into top 6 forwards / top 4 D.

So we have a 40 -50 % chance of one of our 2nds being a top end player. TT is due, to come through. Go with the talent.

EDIT: Will say though that in deep drafts as many as 8 top end guys have come out of the 2nd that I have seen and if that is this kind of draft we should get one top end guy just on statistics, let alone if TT actually adds value.

 

[Adam Michaels]

This is basically two drafts in 1 without 6th or 7th round picks.

All teams start with 7 picks, one in each round. Habs are heading into this with 9 picks, and all in the first 5 rounds, with 6 of those 9 picks in the first 3 rounds and 7 of those 9 in the Top-100. That is real good.

 

[yianik]

Big fan of Jürgen Arsholin in the 3rd-4th rounds

Dunno. We got Mike Busto in the Gomez trade. He busted.

You want to draft a kid whose last name is Arsholin ( Arse hole n )? Hopefully he isnt sensitive.

 

[Habs Halifax]

I like him to ! He was really a stud for Drummund this years but I'm a little concerned with his lack of side. with the 68 I would be ok with it but 2nd round I don't know..

He reminds me of Quick and he has the same height. Hard to say where he gets drafted but I think he goes late in the 2nd round. Not sure he reaches the 66 pick. I'm sure Ducharme will help us out with scouting on him and would support the idea of drafting him.

 

[Habs Halifax]

All teams start with 7 picks, one in each round. Habs are heading into this with 9 picks, and all in the first 5 rounds, with 6 of those 9 picks in the first 3 rounds and 7 of those 9 in the Top-100. That is real good.

It's rare! We will walk away with a significant haul. But we need to be doing our homework. It's going to be a busy draft. Starting at the 35th pick, we pick on average every 10 picks until the 128 pick! With trade negotiations (Patch, moving down) and other teams drafting some of our targets before us, we need to be prepared.

Will be interesting to see who we pick with the 3rd, 3-4th's and that 5th as well. This is where scouts earn their money

 

[buddahsmoka1]

This is basically two drafts in 1 without 6th or 7th round picks.

They'll do the patented 'trade next year's 7th for this year' again.

 

[yianik]

Fucale is a fringe prospect. McNiven is on the smaller side. Primeau has showed promise and Hawkey is still a question mark.

While we are knee deep there aren't a lot of good ones.

With that said Ufas is one area to look. Goalies also don't seem to have much value when they're traded. Keyword is when, though. Rarely do you see a high-end goalie dealt. Way more often than not it's a promising back up.

Hawkeye and McNiven had bumps this year but before that were looking good. Could be that they are showing they just are not that good, or just could have been a bump. Primeau had an amazing year. I think next year will give us a better idea.

 

[habsgirl5000]

would be so pissed if they picked a goalie at all. They are knee deep in goalie prospects

quantity does not equal quality

i can't see any of our prospects being a #1 starter in the NHL

after Price the only hope is Lindgren, and even he is a big IF right now, but then again so is Price

 

[sholi2000]

It's not like Bergevin was part of Hawks scouting in 2010, we're good.

Outside the top impact players of the 2010 draft, the entire draft was weak. Hawks' picks had nothing to do with scouting and all to do with what was available. The 2nd-7th round is a check em off the list pick, otherwise players like Toffoli, Zucker and Stone would have been drafted in the top ten. Same with this draft (2018) and last season.

I'm excited for Mtl's first pick, and hoping for a trade to get another pick within the top 15. After that it's tough sledding all the way.

 

[sholi2000]

It's not like Bergevin was part of Hawks scouting in 2010, we're good.

Outside the top impact players of the 2010 draft, the entire draft was weak. Hawks' picks had nothing to do with scouting and all to do with what was available. The 2nd-7th round is a check em off the list pick, otherwise players like Toffoli, Zucker and Stone would have been drafted in the top ten. Same with this draft (2018) and last season.

I'm excited for Mtl's first pick, and hoping for a trade to get another pick within the top 15. After that it's tough sledding all the way.