HF Habs: Montreal Canadiens Draft (#3, #35, #38, #56, #62, #66, #97, #102, #122 & #128)

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  1. Adam Michaels

    Adam Michaels Registered User

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    The Habs 3rd Overall thread is pretty packed. I thought I could start a new one that includes all of their selections. If mods feel this is similar to the NHL Entry Draft sticky thread, by all means, merge and/or delete this one. But I figured that one is a little more NHL general and this could be for the Habs specifically.

    We all know this is a big draft for the Habs. Moving up a spot in the lottery from 4th to 3rd might have seemed a bit of a let down at the time (considering how far the Canes moved up). But I think we can all agree that we'd much rather be the Habs, who moved up a spot, then to be the Sens, Yotes, Canucks, and Wings, who all moved back a spot or two spots.

    So here are the spots the Habs are selecting in. Some are still not etched in stone because some of them depend on some teams' playoff performances to determine where the Habs will select.

    ROUND 1
    #3 -
    Habs moved up a spot in the lottery.

    ROUND 2
    #35 -
    Habs' original 2nd R'd pick
    #38 - Hawk's 2nd R'd pick (from the 2016 trade of Weise + Fleischmann for Danault + this pick)
    #56 - Leafs' 2nd R'd pick (from the trade of Plekanec (50% retained) + Baun for this pick + Rychel + Valiev)
    #62 - Caps' 2nd R'd pick (from the trade of Eller for '17 2nd R'd pick (Ikonen) + this pick) (this was also the conditional pick in the Sergachev/Drouin trade that returned to Habs when Sergachev played 40 games)


    ROUND 3
    #66 -
    Habs' original 3rd R'd pick

    ROUND 4
    #97 -
    Habs' original 4th R'd pick (it was traded away to LA for King and then was a conditional pick in the Mitchell to LA trade. The condition was met when LA qualified for the playoffs, so the pick returned to Habs)
    #102 - Oilers's 4th R'd pick (conditional pick for the Montoya to EDM trade. The condition was met when Montoya played 7 regular season games of 30+ minutes)
    #122 - Jets' 4th R'd pick (from the trade for Morrow for this pick)

    ROUND 5
    #128 -
    Habs' original 5th R'd pick

    ROUND 6
    Habs don't have a pick in this round (they traded it to Detroit for Steve Ott last year - it is pick #159)

    ROUND 7
    Habs don't have a pick in this round (they traded it to Philadelphia for their '17 7th R'd pick (Primeau) - it is pick #190​
     
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    The 2nd round could be what changes the future of the franchise.

    Or like Chicago in 2010 it could mean nothing. They had four 2nd round picks. You don't know the name of any of them.
     
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    #3: Filip Zadina
    #35: Rasmus Sandin
    #38: Jake Wise
    #56: Nicolas Beaudin
    #58: Jack Drury
    #66: Gabriel Fortier
    #97: Joey Keane
    #102: Anderson MacDonald
    #123: Yegor Sokolov
    #128: Mathias Laferrière

    :D
     
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    I hope for Sandin there as well.
     
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    Chris Cutter Devil's Advocate

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    Or that Islanders draft where they had like 15 picks.
     
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    Good example. Not to mention, there was a certain Marc Bergevin part of that Chicago hockey ops for that draft.

    However, I do trust Timmins. Maybe I'm in the minority here. But I do think he's done a good job when he has picks to use.
     
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    he's going in last 1st for sure
     
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    do you think they have chance that B-O Groulx slid to the 58th pick ?
     
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    I've done my fair share of crapping on MB and will do so again but that Weise + Fleischmann for Danault + the 38th pick this year was a very good move by him so I'll give him credit for that move.
     
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    4 2nd rounders is ****ing glorious.

    Unless we ****ing trade 2 of them for an Andrew Shaw type player.

    Seriously, keep them. Swing for the fences and hopefully at least 2 of the players will work out.

    Obviously a HUGE draft for this franchise.
     
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    even a blind monkey finds a banana every once in awhile....its just luck and percentages
     
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    Two expiring contracts for a player (who may have been miscast in a bigger role than he should, but is still a key member of the roster) plus a 2nd round pick. Have to also thank the lucky stars that Hawks are going south, which in turn made this pick a high 2nd round pick.

    Looking back, if they traded for a 2017 2nd round pick, it would have been pick #57. But here we are, Habs have pick #38 instead.
     
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    L4br3cqu3 U mad ?

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    2nd round can yield so much depth to a team, when drafting and developed right. Those 4 2nd rounders are gold.
     
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    He's made some good trades and some good signings. Not everything is awful. But too much of what he has done that's good is a drop in the ocean compared to the moves he either neglected to make, or poorly made.

    Eh, I'd agree on that when it comes to maybe the draft but trades are very much chess. You're not gonna luck out on a win against a superior or comparable opponent. It's why I still give respect to Brian Burke for a lot of the great trades he's made in his career, while still recognizing his lack of pro scouting goaltenders and some of his other boneheaded moves.
     
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    A lot of 2nd round players fill out rosters in teams around the league. So hopefully we can keep them unless it makes us move up for some sure hits in the draft (not for old players as mentioned above).
     
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    If we draft Zadina at 3 we can concentrate on some of the more interesting 2nd round picks by drafting D men and centers, which appears to be the case this year as there seems to be a strong contingent of dmen and centers in and around the top of the 2nd round.

    Would be nice to see a lot of habs prospects on various national junior teams in the future. Tired of seeing guys like Taylor Raddysh play significant roles in the WJ tournament (where most of us mortals can actually see them play) who are drafted by a team like Tampa at #58.
     
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    I really hope we don't **** up our 2nds. Probably the most important part of the draft for us.
     
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    You're bound to hit two out of the park with all those top 60 picks. If you don't smash at least two of those picks the scouting staff should be cut.
     
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    Yeah but we can still pat him on the back for the few good moves he does pull off and this turned out to be one of these very good moves. Still can't wait for him to be sent packing though. :)
     
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    03: Filip Zadina
    35: Jonny Tychonick
    38: Jake Wise
    56: Mattias Samuelsson
    58: Olivier Rodrigue
    66: Gabriel Fortier

    97, 102, 123, 128: No idea
     
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    and alote of persons where mad at Bergevin because he took this years 2nd round and not the 2017 one
     
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    you would put a 2nd rounder on a goalie ?
     
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    thinking of the future, it would be nice to possibly flip one of those 2nd rounders to next year. Time to start really building through the draft like Bergy promised!!
     
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    I hope for him he'll do well cause i can already see people calling him Ramus Sardine if it doesn't work ;)
     
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    We have a 13% shot (4/31) at hitting on that yearly 5% (+/-) probability there is a impact player in the 2nd round. Lets hope the hype is real and it's a deep draft all the way into the 2nd! I think the 5 picks from 66-128 are important too. This is where good scouts can take advantage. Habs need to be doing their homework and we will be buys on draft day with many moving parts that we may or may not predict.

    Our own rankings of each player is very important... especially from the 35-128 range. Drafting best available don't exist. We need to draft the players with offensive upside. We already have too many grade B "safe" prospects. It's time to shoot for players with high ceiling potential.
     
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