PatriceBergeronFan
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What odd logic. Gaudreau dominated in college hockey, he wasn't there because of lack of talent.Agreed with everything. People don't realize when Gaudreau was Marner's age, he was just starting his NHL career.
What odd logic. Gaudreau dominated in college hockey, he wasn't there because of lack of talent.Agreed with everything. People don't realize when Gaudreau was Marner's age, he was just starting his NHL career.
This is the first time Marner has played with such skilled linemates and he has 8 points in 4 games.
I swear this poll has been done many times before.
maybe catches up but not separates...Gaudreau has already had better seasons than Marner...first Marner has to hit PPG+ before he can be deemed better than...Marner separates himself from Gaudreau this season.
Gaudreau still. He'll still probably outscore Marner despite the huge gap in quality of linemates.
Could only imagine what Gaudreau would do with Tavares and Matthews (on PP).
Flames 1st line is worse than Leafs 2nd line?And Gaudreau has 7p in 3gp playing with significantly worse players.
aka;
"I've never watched Marner play before."
Gaudreau is the driver behind the Flames offense, Marner has the luxury of being a passenger on the Leafs offense, a skilled contributing passenger but a passenger nonetheless.
Voted Gaudreau.
Marner, in his D+2 season, put up the same numbers as Gaudreau in his D+4 season. Marner then put up better numbers in his D+3 season, and although his D+4 season is not determined yet, we all know it's going to be much higher than Johnny's D+4 season.What odd logic. Gaudreau dominated in college hockey, he wasn't there because of lack of talent.
Marner, in his D+2 season, put up the same numbers as Gaudreau in his D+4 season. Marner then put up better numbers in his D+3 season, and although his D+4 season is not determined yet, we all know it's going to be much higher than Johnny's D+4 season.
Now obviously Johnny has put up a couple of ppg seasons since then, but Mitch looks to me like a higher potential player and could possibly put up a ppg this season and he's younger.
How's that logic?
So Malkin is a passenger in your opinion?I’ve watched him benefit from the threat of Auston Matthews drawing the top defenders attention while Marner gets more free space to work against weaker defenders.
Teams don’t go into games against the Maple Leafs game planning to stop Mitch Marner. Teams do go into games against the Flames game planning to stop Johnny Gaudreau.
Being the focal point of the offense is more difficult, the same reason why Crosby is considered better than Malkin, because he is always the one focused on, making his job harder, yet still produces similar numbers.
That's nice, I'm not arguing that Marner > Gaudreau, not exactly fair to say that until Marner proves it over full season, which though is a possibility.And Gaudreau has 7p in 3gp playing with significantly worse players.
So Malkin is a passenger in your opinion?
Complete BS to call Marner a passenger because the Leafs have Matthews, he's been through driver of his line since basically coming into the league.
That's nice, I'm not arguing that Marner > Gaudreau, not exactly fair to say that until Marner proves it over full season, which though is a possibility.
Way too early to say Gaudreau is going to outscore Marner, point totals atm certainly don't indicate that.
Yeah I don't agree, and no 8 > 7.7 points in 3 games for Gaudreau > 8 in 4 for Marner, if they're even in the same vicinity in points, Gaudreau gets the nod.
Gaudreau is simply a better version of Marner.
Gaudreau still. He'll still probably outscore Marner despite the huge gap in quality of linemates.
Could only imagine what Gaudreau would do with Tavares and Matthews (on PP).
I’ve watched him benefit from the threat of Auston Matthews drawing the top defenders attention while Marner gets more free space to work against weaker defenders.
Teams don’t go into games against the Maple Leafs game planning to stop Mitch Marner. Teams do go into games against the Flames game planning to stop Johnny Gaudreau.
Being the focal point of the offense is more difficult, the same reason why Crosby is considered better than Malkin, because he is always the one focused on, making his job harder, yet still produces similar numbers.
Well that is because Calgary does not have Tavares, Matthews, Nylander and Co.Gaudreau 7 points on 12 goals scored. Marner 8 points on 20 goals scored. Yeah the flames offence runs through Gaudreau. Marner not so much.
Gaudreau 7 points on 12 goals scored. Marner 8 points on 20 goals scored. Yeah the flames offence runs through Gaudreau. Marner not so much.
Flames 1st line is worse than Leafs 2nd line?
Remember Flames tend to have better Ds, they also are on the ice.