Thenameless
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This post needs to be read by all.Meaner has one less point in one less game played while playing less minutes and much less pp time.
Gaudreau is an awesome awesome player but Marner in my opinion marner is better.
I feel like you've actually never see Mitch Marner play.
Is Gaudreau smarter and more tenacious? Since entering the league, the only forwards with more takeaways than Mitch Marner are Mark Stone and Connor McDavid. No forward has more giveaways than Johnny Gaudreau during this span, and he leads that category by a country mile. Marner hits and blocks shots much more often as well, and by "much more often" I mean he actually does those things.
Marner is pretty obviously driving his line, all you have to do is watch the games. Or just notice that he's on pace to finish about 20 points ahead of Tavares. Just look at the goals JT is scoring this year. Tap-ins on the crease, coming from Marner. Marner doesn't get phantom assists, they're virtually all primary points. If someone has the stats for this, send me the link.
Marner would have to score at the worst pace of his career from here on out to finish under a PPG. But it's true he has yet to record a point-per-game season at age 21. For comparison, Gaudreau was coming off 3 consecutive PPG seasons at Boston College at this age (although he wouldn't do it in the NHL until age 24).
Marner didnt start producing at Gaudreaus rate until he got Tavares as his centre. Marner has exceeded my expectations but i still take Gaudreau easily as he is the type of player who can drive a whole team. Idk if Marner is that type of player. Including contracts it sways it even more.
I thought in a situation like that if a player only played 1 game they don't count it as 1 season? Kind of like when a player on a ELC plays 9 games, gets sent back to his junior team so they don't burn 1 year of his contract.this list is a little misleading because guys were left off of it for playing a small number of games in a "cup of coffee" season. For example, Gaudreau played 1 game in '13/'14 with a goal, then had 40+ assists in every season after, so the 1 game he played that year disqualifies him from it which seems like a tiny technicality
it's still impressive for Marner
I think this is a list that someone just looked at literally the 1st season they played in and started counting, otherwise Gaudreau should be there and I'm sure there's othersI thought in a situation like that if a player only played 1 game they don't count it as 1 season? Kind of like when a player on a ELC plays 9 games, gets sent back to his junior team so they don't burn 1 year of his contract.
Marner is special and people need to realize that. When Someone is comparable to a talent like Gaudreau offensively while being responsible defensively (that bodes well for the future)
His passing is comparable to Gaudreau's (Gaudreau still better) but as far as scoring goals goes,Gaudreau is far far superior that no tiny bit of defensive responsibility makes up for it.
Gaudreau also plays with Lindholm while Marner has to carry Hyman. Marner also gets way less PP time and more PK timeGaudreau has 55 points in 40 games
Marner has 53 points in 39 games
Their production is close but one is playing with Tavares and the other one carrying Monahan.
Give me Gaudreau even if he's 4 years older his contract is a steal at this point
Lindholm's career year was, oh it's actually this year. 44 points, career high...in 40 games with Gaudreau. He's producing at more than double rate he did last year.Gaudreau also plays with Lindholm while Marner has to carry Hyman. Marner also gets way less PP time and more PK time
Lindholm's career year was, oh it's actually this year. 44 points, career high...in 40 games with Gaudreau. He's producing at more than double rate he did last year.
(Edit, actually had 45 points once)
Gaudreau has 55 points in 40 games
Marner has 53 points in 39 games
Their production is close but one is playing with Tavares and the other one carrying Monahan.
Give me Gaudreau even if he's 4 years older his contract is a steal at this point
MM is really good, but give me Johnny Hockey.
Tavares has 30 plus playing with Johnny.