Stone
Zucker
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How far off in value is this and do Senators fans have any interest in a deal like this?
Not sure what the + would be, but open to a discussion about it.
is you + called Dumba?
The plus would have to be fairly large. Zucker is a good player but Mark Stone is better at both ends. Given the circumstances of OTT right now it could be a little lower than what should be. Depending on what both players contract asks are I’d imagine a first? Not sure how highly Brodin is viewed but maybe him with an add on OTTs side (lower add)
Explain how a discussion between the difference of Stone and Zucker is stupid. Zucker isn’t exactly chopped liver here and like AKL said, this is assuming Stone doesn’t want to sign long term with Ottawa.well op is stupid, so why would I reply with an intelligent answer
Should be said, I think the assumption behind this deal is that Stone doesn’t want to sign long term in Ottawa, and Zucker signs at around 6M for 4-6 years.
Zucker
Niederreiter
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Stone
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Well, that's a completely unfounded assumption.
Let's make the assumption that Zucker doesn't want to sign long term in Minnesota. What do we need to add to Ryan Dzingel to get him?
Start with Dumba and add.
The difference between Zucker and Stone is not Brodin, especially if the assumption that Stone won’t sign long term in Ottawa is true.
If you look at the underlying numbers either this year, the last two years, or even the last three years, they’re not THAT far apart. Stone is better offensively, but not by much. Defensively it’s hard to quantify. You can listen to the talking heads tell you how great Stone is defensively, but he only has marginally more SH TOI/g than Zucker despite being on a much worse team, and Zucker’s +/- is also better over the last three years, which also points to the fact that Stone has had a significant advantage in PP opportunity, giving him an edge on the point producing side.
What is the point of the trade for Minn then?
What is the point of the trade for Minn then?
The point of the trade is primarily to draw from an overabundance of left shot wingers and add a second right shot winger. Coyle is the only other righty in our top-9. Hoffman represents a potential upgrade to our top-6 that way as well, though he's still never actually put up more points than Zucker did this year. And Zucker is the better goal scorer.
I think most concede that Stone is better, so the is that if Ott cant resign him. Also Helps out imbalance between RW and LW.What is the point of the trade for Minn then?
The main point from our end would be to trade a lefty for a righty.
As far as our wingers go, at the NHL level and in the system...
Left-handed: Parise, Granlund, Nino, Zucker, Greenway, Sokolov, Kaprizov
Right-handed: Coyle, Kunin (might be a center)
I think most concede that Stone is better, so the is that if Ott cant resign him. Also Helps out imbalance between RW and LW.
The point of the trade is primarily to draw from an overabundance of left shot wingers and add a second right shot winger. Coyle is the only other righty in our top-9. Stone represents a potential upgrade to our top-6 that way as well, though he's still never actually put up more points than Zucker did this year. And Zucker is the better goal scorer.
Stone is marginally better, yes. If the point of the deal was to acquire a big upgrade over Zucker, we'd look to see if we could acquire Panarin. As it is, I think the primary goal of this deal is to swap a lefty for a righty.
I think the main issue is that OTT doesn’t necessarily have an abundance of RWers either. I prefaced my post with not understanding Brodins value honestly. He doesn’t seem to have progressed as hoped. Maybe a prospect like Greenway but I think they’d rather have a rw prospect
lol stone is marginally better?