Player Discussion: Mikhail Sergachev

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  1. BoltsFanPinellasPark

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    Had high hopes for this guy, been noticing his laziness and stupid passes the last couple months. It showed big time tonight.
     
  2. The Macho Man

    The Macho Man Lusty Bodychecker

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    This dude has no idea how to gap up. It's really bad. He's either going out of position to make a hit at the redline or he's sitting back at the top of the circles.
     
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    I remember this past summer when most people balked at the idea of including 98 in a deal for Karlsson. I get that he has potential and he looked good last season, but his sloppy play & lackadaisical style is just unbearable right now. Hope maybe it’s just a sophomore slump kind of thing. Otherwise he’ll be another lazy Russian with wasted talent. To think that he was possibly the piece holding up any deal for EK just drives me nuts.
     
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    The Macho Man Lusty Bodychecker

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    TBF I never did, although it was clear the team was never going to do it.

    I also don't think it's laziness. It looks like it, but most of his issues are positional, not effort-related.
     
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    Did you guy know that Sergachev is 20 years old? Obviously he still has things he needs to work on but that's to be expected. I don't know why people thought he would be turning into a franchise D in his second year. I'm pretty happy with his growth personally.
     
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    You ever seen this guy on a loose puck?

    Me neither.

    The positional stuff, gap control etc are mistakes a 20 year old is going to make and you can learn but man not moving your feet to fight for pucks? being soft as hell on the boards? that's just a matter of getting in there and doing the work. It's just pure lazy from a 20 year old professional hockey player
     
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    Eh - maybe. I think he's just slow to react in the defensive zone because he has problems processing plays.
     
  8. Todd1a

    Todd1a Kucherov or prospect

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    He needs time and coaching and he will grow into a top 4 defenseman dude is 20 years old give him a break
     
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    ViD #CBJNeedHugs

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    It’s like Hedman didn’t struggle his first two years
     
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    Or Jones.
     
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    DaBolts Win IT ALL or Don't Come Home

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    Don't pick on Serge. He's our leading scorer in the playoffs! We need him fully confident.
     
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    People are incredibly shortsighted and quick to judgement.
     
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    Todd1a Kucherov or prospect

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    Hedman it took him till his 4th season until I was like man this guy is elite and really good . Not to say sergachev will get to hedmans level he probably won’t but when sergachev is like 23-24 he is going to be good.
     
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    Yeah, he's still young. Loaded with offensive talent. Needs to work on his defense, but there's time.
     
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    100% agree. I just don't know if we have the patience or salary cap to see this project through.
     
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    No problems calling as it is, some people are sensitive af and only need to see sunshine's and rainbows. Nobody is calling him a bust or that he can't get better, pointing out his flaws as well as his (many) praises.
     
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    Fair enough. Just have to deal with it all the time on the Avs board. People calling 19-21 year olds busts. Than when they have a good game they go completely the opposite.

    Half the Avs board was calling Jost a bust. Than he plays like he did last night and they completely change. Look for his weaknesses sure but its about projection I guess is my point. Players have to make mistakes to find what works and what doesn't.
     
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    People are impatient and want fast results, I mean having rough stretches is part of developing but it doesn't mean you're free of criticism either. Sergachev coughed the puck up on the blueline the other game giving an odd-man rush in a playoff game, that's stupid at any age.
     
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    I agree it's not a good look. Most high end defenseman have made the same mistakes though. Question will be if he can clean them up and focus on smarter decisions.
     
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    The problem is people saying he should be traded. Like what the **** would be the point of that.
     
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    I thought he was supposed to skate well
     
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    I liked his game today, tons of hussle - he did have it in him. Just lazy.
     
  23. HoseEmDown

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    We need a coach that will play to his strengths. He's got the offensive ability to produce like the a Barrie or Chabot, not quite the Burns or Karlsson level but we are trying to make him strong in his own end instead. Which I understand as you don't want a disaster back there but if he could just dominate in their end he wouldn't be in ours that often. Cooper needs to stop trying to make everyone a two way player, some are just not going to become that.
     
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    Coopers Gum Extend Andrej Sustr

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    But, there are two goals, Hose.

    eyeroll
     
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    That my friend is called a passionate fan base. Believe me, I see the same on my own board :)
     
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