Player Discussion: Mikhail Sergachev

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  1. LightningStrikes

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    2 goals and 5 points in his last 5 games. Sitting out a few games in between seems to have done him good.
     
  2. Still All In

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    I get why you'd say that, but I honestly see him aging more like Stralman rather than a Hal Gill. He has good mobility, protects himself fairly well, but has had issues with missing a few games a year. Maybe taking the time to heal isn't the worst thing, though.
     
  3. Rschmitz

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    IMO physical defensive play ages well, but make no mistake, it's absolutely vital to win.

    Still think he has a lot of tread, he's only played 7-8 seasons
     
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    IF a rested Serge, Coburn, Girardi, Cernak, etc. is what it takes to have a you know what parade, I'm down with it. Serge seems to have better legs and more focus. And I seriously can not wait to see a Cernak/Serge pairing one day.
     
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    Key point of this article for me

    "With a robust lead in the east"

    This is where Cooper should start purchasing development time with some of our points. Give Sergachev 20 minutes every game while resting vets. When rosters expand, get Katchouk into the lineup until the AHL playoffs.

    Create a culture that this organization wins from top to bottom no matter where you rank
     
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    He always plays better with more minutes
    :nod:

    :thumbu:
     
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    Not sure about giving Katchouk/Raddysh etc time just yet, if we don't need them in, because I wouldn't want to needlessly get them closer to waiver eligibility.
     
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    Thoughts on this trade:

    TO PHI
    - Sergachev
    - Cirelli
    - 1st

    TO TAM
    - Simmonds
    - Gostisbehere
     
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    **** no. Go away.
     
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    Sergachev has this upright casual skating style that reminds me a lot of Jake Gardiner.
     
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    Wouldn't give up Sergachev and Cirelli is a beast
     
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    Serg didn't look too great against Toronto IMO.
     
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    That effects their waiver eligibility once rosters expand?
     
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    I actually thought he looked pretty good.



    So this play he's been getting some crap on (sadly the video doesn't show the first puck battle that Tampa walked away with and couldn't clear).

    Go to 36 seconds in the video. Stralman with 2 Leafs below the hash marks. Sergachev has Kadri marked but is also guarding the front of the net (exactly where he's supposed to be). Johnson is slow in supporting Stralman, but he *should* be covering the passing lane between Marleau and Kapanen there. If you look at the freeze frame, we have everyone marked. 5 blue shirts in the frame with 4 white shirts. Stralman isn't in the greatest position but he's been left on an island against two forecheckers.

    If Johnson is going to go support Stralman, he a) needs to do it earlier, and b) either Point or Kucherov needs to cycle in and cover his assignment. A shot from the point (especially if it's Kucherov's guy Hainsey) isn't that concerning, especially since it will generally be unscreened and also everyone else is marked so as long as you don't fall asleep you don't have to worry about passes/tips/screens.

    But Johnson is slow to support, and no one covers his assignment in time (Kucherov is a bit late in getting there). So Marleau passes it to Kapanen who's wide open in the slot. Kadri is Sergachev's "guy", but he's essentially in a mini-2 on 1 situation here, but he tries to block the passing/shooting lane. The only mistake here is not getting down to block the lane quite fast enough, but this is a play that's developing quickly. Kadri is unchecked and can scoop it up.

    Sergachev's big "mistake" is not clogging the lane fast enough, but he was in a position he never should have had to be in. I really can't fault him too much for how that play developed.
     
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    I guess my main gripe with him is how he disengages from the puck carrier at times. I'm not expecting him to nail him to the boards (that's not Serg's game) but he gives opponents so much space at times. Even bumping into them seems to be out of question for Serg. I agree that his positioning is spot-on most of the time, as @The Macho Man describes above, but just passively shadowing the puck carrier without ever engaging with your body or stick or w/e will only do half the trick. He's still got to learn defensively. Really like his offensive game though, as everyone else does I assume and over all he has taken huge steps forward in this, his sophomore year.
     
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    This, Sergachev activated because we had control of the puck. Smart aggressive play by him which backfired but I wouldn't discourage
     
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    Thanks for the analysis, Macho! That does make it more clear that Sergachev and Strålman did the best they could without proper support by the forwards. What about the other goal Sergy was on ice for, was that mostly due to Palat being out of position?
     
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    I'm pretty sure NHL games played is one of the markers. Not sure how many the player can put it before he burns up the ability to pass through waivers. Somebody more knowledgeable with this kind of thing can chime in.
     
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    We wouldn’t trade Sergachev alone for that garbage, much less add to him.
     
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    DominicBoltsFan what the heck

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    yea we dont need 2 more PP specialists
     
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    Sergachev last year and this year. Basically the same results playing with worse teammates while getting more ice time and dzone starts. Think we should keep giving him more ice time and see what he can handle. In my eyes he has passed Stralman on the depth chart already.
     
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    heres my trade idea

    to PHI:
    stralman
    erne

    to TB:
    sanheim
    lindblom
    1st

    dont like it? its barely worse than your offer
     
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