Speculation: Matthews/Leafs closing in on new contract

[Rob Brown]

This is awful.

 

[Bloomberg]

This deal is terrible. Only 5 years and for that cap hit.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Bad deal. not worth firing Dubas over because it's better than the alternative, but that's a bad deal

 

[Pi]

That's a really bad deal for the amount of years we got. AAV is fine. Term is not.

Good for Matthews and his agent. They absolutely bent the Leafs over on that deal.

 

[92Chris93]

Any chance leafs management foresees an adjustment to the CBA that would impact future contracts to the extent that they're goal all along was a short term deal?

 

[stickty111]

The contract isn't great, but its fine, and you rather overpay a little. Dubas wouldn't want to risk an offersheet in the summer.
I am content with the deal but not thrilled.

 

[Mkdaman1818]

Here is what I don't get... Why rush it? Let him finish the year. Maybe he has a poor playoff and you can argue that? Maybe he gets injured again? I mean you are basically all in anyway I doubt he can go up from here...

Which brings the next point. Dubas must think that an offersheet is a legitimate possibility and not only that, but that Matthews would consider signing it. It's the only possible reason to overpay so much with tons of time to get a deal done (months before the season starts) after preaching patience and if you have time use it.

If this is the case, why the **** is Dubas signing a guy who clearly doesn't have team loyalty and will chase money to basically UFA? He should be getting 8 years on this deal at the very least.

The more I think about it, the more reasons come up that just says this might actually be one of the worst contracts ever. Not because he is a bad player or anything (not Lucic bad) but bad as in for the value and based on comparable and his list of accomplishments, he has been vastly overpaid and Dubas is paying purely based on speculation and hypotheticals (counting on cap going up, counting on PPG translating over a full season, etc)

Two reasons you do it now:

1. Matthews with a half decent playoff run would demand even more money. Yes you can bet on him being worse but they actually did that when they didn’t try extending him last summer. And the reason they didn’t do that is because they didn’t want to set a floor for nylander to negotiate with, which leads to #2...

2. Marner is playing hardball and not gonna negotiate till Matthews number is set. So getting this done now can start the clock on Marner and getting that done. Simple.

 

[Nineteen67]

Yep...... which makes me want to puke.

Parity my ass

No one believes me when I say there is a Premium to sign in Toronto to make up for the quality of life.

 

[al secord]

I hope Auston enjoyed the easy ride.

 

[Michoulicious]

This is a great deal for Matthews, not so much for the Leafs.

Guy will be UFA at 26.

 

[TimeZone]

 

[FlareKnight]

That is a total mess. Good job f***ing it up Dubas. Pay the premium for too few years. Straight into cap oblivion without even the cups to make it tolerable.

 

[TeddyBare]

$11.7 AAV

This aint it

 

[IPS]

Bad deal. not worth firing Dubas over because it's better than the alternative, but that's a bad deal

Dubas' main job has been to get our RFA's signed to fair deals.

He's failed miserably.

 

[topched]

Best home grown player in 30 years agrees to extension worth market value.

Leafs nation “f*%#”

Don’t ever change guys.

 

[HOCKEYGOON]

Any chance leafs management foresees an adjustment to the CBA that would impact future contracts to the extent that they're goal all along was a short term deal?

I heard on the radio the players are watching to see how the gambling revenue effects the cap in the future.

 

[New User Name]

Signed 5 years 11.6 million AAV

 

[stickty111]

****ing disgusting. Fire Dubas

Lol at fire Dubas

 

[MattySnipes]

Got alert.

Done deal, awaiting AAV

 

[diceman934]

Considering the talent that Matthews is, I agree that this contract, while high, is the best course of action. However, not signing Matthews to 8x11 in the offseason will go down as Kyle Dubas' biggest error as a GM here. It was such an obvious thing to do and I think he over-thought it. That being said I think he will learn from it and be a great GM for us...

He is not a great GM he opens his big mouth and speaks in absolutes and it has cost us a lot of cap space and a very good player or two this coming year. His biggest mistake was worrying about signing Nylander and putting him in front of two vastly more important players.

 

[Xanner]

I'm not sure why everyone here is complaining about the contract numbers, were you guys hoping he'd sign under 10 or get the Stamkos contract from a few years ago?

The cap is going up and will continue to go up and so will player salaries. The only thing that is unfortunate is that they didn't extend him on July 1, they may have saved about a mill had they done that.

 

[TheTotalPackage]

Sign him for $11.5 million over 8 years and it's a fantastic, near perfect deal.

Over 5 years? 0 for 2, Dubas.

 

[Schenn]

Have to be kidding.

 

[Pi]

This is a great deal for Matthews, not so much for the Leafs.

Guy will be UFA at 26.

Which is not a problem IMO. Crosby, Ovechkin, Stamkos, Toews, Kane, Tavares all signed for 5-6 years and only one of them left because his team sucked.

I wanted Matthews signed on a short term deal to help out the Leafs cap situation but I thought that deal would come around 10M or less. Did not expect no discount and low term.

 

[Bomber0104]

Oh my god as high as 11.7 now?

Matthews agent was probably trying to get it as close to McDavid money just for shits and giggles...with 3 years less

What a joke

 

[al secord]

I heard on the radio the players are watching to see how the gambling revenue effects the cap in the future.

I wouldn't bet on it...

 

[Phion Keneuf]

5 years? f***ing garbage.