Player Discussion Mark "Vigilante” Borowiecki

[topshelf15]

I'd lump him in with Pageau as well if it meant securing a 1st round pick.

More curious about his stand alone value though. Is it as a high as late 3rd now?

Yep can do this with other guys like Tierney as well,say Hainsey and If someone wants him Zaitsev...

 

[philb613]

10pts through 31 games, 2nd in the league in hits, and top 10 in blocked shots not bad so far over a third of the way through the year

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

10pts through 31 games, 2nd in the league in hits, and top 10 in blocked shots not bad so far over a third of the way through the year

Yup, he is a force to be reckoned with.

The league media is also using him a bit more the face of the team. A pleasant surprise for some, a source for displeasure for many.

 

[philb613]

Honestly think if the team doesn't have him in their plans beyond 2 years it'd be best for them and Mark to look to deal him in the next two months, preferably before the TDL as I'm sure there'd be a market for him. Strike while the iron is hot sort of deal and maybe recoup a 3rd for him.

I'd love for him to be here long term but just don't see it with the depth on D coming up on the left side.

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

Honestly think if the team doesn't have him in their plans beyond 2 years it'd be best for them and Mark to look to deal him in the next two months, preferably before the TDL as I'm sure there'd be a market for him. Strike while the iron is hot sort of deal and maybe recoup a 3rd for him.

I'd love for him to be here long term but just don't see it with the depth on D coming up on the left side.

We need a guy to be our pinch hitter

 

[aragorn]

Ya if we are going to tank next year to we need him. No one takes themselves out of position giving up 2 on 1s like Boro does and that's the type of no nonsense play a tank really needs.

No one gets pushed around & over whelmed by bigger, tougher NHL forwards like Brannstrom & soon Thomson, that's the kind of players that you can't win with in the playoffs. If you have a sheep leading the way it's just a matter of time before the whole team plays like sheep, but if you have a wolf leading the way it's just a matter of time before the whole team plays like wolves with a pack mentality.

 

[stempniaksen]

No one gets pushed around & over whelmed by bigger, tougher NHL forwards like Brannstrom & soon Thomson, that's the kind of players that you can't win with in the playoffs. If you have a sheep leading the way it's just a matter of time before the whole team plays like sheep, but if you have a wolf leading the way it's just a matter of time before the whole team plays like wolves with a pack mentality.

Seriously dude? You're already calling Thomson soft based on what exactly? The handful of dev camp scrimmages you might have seen?

Let's let the kid play some pro games in NA before we dismiss him as some kind of soft pushover. By the time he gets here he'll be 6'0, 200+ lbs, I'm sure you'll have changed your tune by then.

 

[aragorn]

Seriously dude? You're already calling Thomson soft based on what exactly? The handful of dev camp scrimmages you might have seen?

Let's let the kid play some pro games in NA before we dismiss him as some kind of soft pushover. By the time he gets here he'll be 6'0, 200+ lbs, I'm sure you'll have changed your tune by then.

Yes, we'll see.

 

[stempniaksen]

Yes, we'll see.

Sounds like you've got your mind made up either way.

 

[aragorn]

Sounds like you've got your mind made up either way.

We'll both eventually see.

 

[danielpalfredsson]

In the summer, I thought the time was coming where he would organically be played off the team, but he has really stepped his game up. I love to see a guy like him do well. I'm not at all opposed to the Senators re-signing him but I wonder if there will be a bigger market for him as a UFA this time around.

 

[swiftwin]

Honestly think if the team doesn't have him in their plans beyond 2 years it'd be best for them and Mark to look to deal him in the next two months, preferably before the TDL as I'm sure there'd be a market for him. Strike while the iron is hot sort of deal and maybe recoup a 3rd for him.

I'd love for him to be here long term but just don't see it with the depth on D coming up on the left side.

Well, if he's in our plans for the next two years, lets use him for those two years before letting him go. Why is everyone is a rush to move every. single. player. that does not fit the 5 year plan? We still need bodies to fill out the lineup until all the kids are ready. There's no reason we shouldn't give Boro a 2 year deal.

 

[Pierre from Orleans]

Seriously dude? You're already calling Thomson soft based on what exactly? The handful of dev camp scrimmages you might have seen?

Let's let the kid play some pro games in NA before we dismiss him as some kind of soft pushover. By the time he gets here he'll be 6'0, 200+ lbs, I'm sure you'll have changed your tune by then.

I am pretty sure he referred to Pageau as soft too

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

I am pretty sure he referred to Pageau as soft too

Pageau is more cuddly than soft, IMO

 

[Ice-Tray]

Pageau is more cuddly than soft, IMO

Spongy with a soft cream filling.... Too far?

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

Ah yeahz... more fun with Markie Mark

 

[JD1]

In the summer, I thought the time was coming where he would organically be played off the team, but he has really stepped his game up. I love to see a guy like him do well. I'm not at all opposed to the Senators re-signing him but I wonder if there will be a bigger market for him as a UFA this time around.

Has he really stepped up his game or is the system he's playing in resulting in him having more success?

Stepping up on the left side and hitting people was a boucher thing. Boro did that. The 2 on 1s that follow result from no back coverage.

We have moved away from that system, he is going for the big hit less often and his personal play looks better because he is not taking himself out of position

I'm happy for him. He's having a good year. And he should be able to parlay it into another 4 or 5 million bucks

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

There is a BoroCop Montage on TSN with a ten second long outro.

BoroCop montage

Surely a troll by TSN. Surely.

 

[DrEasy]

There is a BoroCop Montage on TSN with a ten second long outro.

BoroCop montage

Surely a troll by TSN. Surely.

The two blocks followed by the banked shot followed by playing it cool was definitely a highlight of the season so far.

 

[Agent Zub]

As the biggest boro critic he's been playing the best hockey of his career lately.

He could ask for 2/3 mill with his stats on the open market.

Will a team be dumb enough to give him that? Will it be Ottawa?

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

As the biggest boro critic he's been playing the best hockey of his career lately.

He could ask for 2/3 mill with his stats on the open market.

Will a team be dumb enough to give him that? Will it be Ottawa?

$4m x 4 and a retirement of number is what I say.

Pierre will offer another year to the new Chris Neil hopefully... at $1.75

 

[philb613]

For those with an Athletic subscription this i s a really good article: More than an asset: Inside a player's life on the block at...

 

[NyQuil]

Boro has to think that all of his career has been leading up to this contract.

I'd think he would want term more than anything else.

 

[BatherSeason]

Some interesting quotes from the Athletic article. Seems like shots fired to me.

 

[BatherSeason]

Boro has to think that all of his career has been leading up to this contract.

I'd think he would want term more than anything else.

Based on the interview, I think he wants to stay here more than anything else. The one player who may actually take a hometown discount and they have yet to even sit down with him or attempt to communicate with his agent.