Mark Scheifele

[veganhunter]

Stuart?

Stu should be in the A but he shouldn't have one on his jersey.

 

[Aavco Cup]

Stu should be in the A but he shouldn't have one on his jersey.

Good luck ripping it off his jersey

 

[Thai jet*]

It'd be a steal in 3 or 4 years if Scheif keeps progressing.
Ehlers Scheif Wheeler
Connor Perreault Little
Looks like a nice top 6 for next year.

Only exception would be Lowry size @ 2nd line ctr if he develops to that.

 

[jiho]

Stu should be in the A but he shouldn't have one on his jersey.

That would look weird....STU_RT

 

[JetsWillFly4Ever]

Only exception would be Lowry size @ 2nd line ctr if he develops to that.

Lowry will never be a 2nd line player.

 

[MrBoJangelz71]

Remember his 1st preseason game with us, in our initial season, when he scored a couple of goals, I jokingly texted a friend "Best Jet Ever!" Might end up being correct when its all said and done.

Also remember all the flak this kid got on this forum for the following three seasons after being drafted. Some real strong assessments by some, declaring him a bust at the seasoned age of 20. Credit to some on here that saw the talent and stuck by him. Shows who can assess talent, and those that can only interpret it through goals and assists.

Sometimes that sexy pick, the one that hits the floor running, does not always end up being the best pick. You cannot put a price tag on character, accountability and work ethic.

I am also a big Raptors fan, have been for years. When they drafted Demar Derozan, I was blown away with the hate projected towards a young kid that had some flaws to his game, but possessed an amazing work ethic, and an inner drive to always get better. Several seasons later, he has made fools outa his haters by a continuous effort to always get better by adding something new to his game each and every offseason.

Scheif reminds me very much of Derozan, and I honestly have no idea how good he will eventually become, because of his dedication towards improving.

 

[GJF]

Remember his 1st preseason game with us, in our initial season, when he scored a couple of goals, I jokingly texted a friend "Best Jet Ever!" Might end up being correct when its all said and done.

Also remember all the flak this kid got on this forum for the following three seasons after being drafted. Some real strong assessments by some, declaring him a bust at the seasoned age of 20. Credit to some on here that saw the talent and stuck by him. Shows who can assess talent, and those that can only interpret it through goals and assists.

Sometimes that sexy pick, the one that hits the floor running, does not always end up being the best pick. You cannot put a price tag on character, accountability and work ethic.

I am also a big Raptors fan, have been for years. When they drafted Demar Derozan, I was blown away with the hate projected towards a young kid that had some flaws to his game, but possessed an amazing work ethic, and an inner drive to always get better. Several seasons later, he has made fools outa his haters by a continuous effort to always get better by adding something new to his game each and every offseason.

Scheif reminds me very much of Derozan, and I honestly have no idea how good he will eventually become, because of his dedication towards improving.

This is going to be water on the mills of a lot of people I like around here so I'm gonna underline it

 

[Aavco Cup]

If he'd gone bar down, instead of bar out last night, he was probably first.

 

[Grind]

I don't actually remember anyone calling Scheif a bust. Honestly, there may have been 1 or 2 posters but they must not be very active because no one stands out (save for maybe Arby, and I don't even know if he did, it just feels like something he'd do).

The real question was never if he was going to bust...but if he'd be better then couturier .

jury's still out on that one IMO but it's starting to swing in old shuffles favor.

 

[Positive]

I don't remember Scheif getting that much flak. There was maybe the odd doubter.

 

[Channelcat]

If Perreault re-signed for 4 or 5 more years, does anyone think he would be a good A?
C Wheeler/Scheif
A Scheif/Wheeler

A Perreault? Little?

Matty probably deserves a letter. The guy is one of the hardest workers and toughest competitors on this team. Don't know if he's a very vocal leader, but his on ice actions speak for themselves. The big question is whether he re-signs though.

In my opinion, Wheeler is the obvious C, then you look at Perrault, Scheif, Little, Staf (also questionable in terms of resigning) ........Stu

 

[Zhamnov5GoalGame]

Slow down there young Mr Scheifele...

Save all that superstar growth in your game until after we sign you to a long term contract!!!

 

[Blue Shakehead]

I don't remember Scheif getting that much flak. There was maybe the odd doubter.

Me neither. I'm notoriously cynical of the Jets management but have been a huge fan of Scheifele since his 4 point exhibition against Columbus. (Aside from playoffs, that game is still my favorite game in 2.0 history and probably always will be.)

There are still a few "Couturier>Scheifele" idiots on twitter, but I don't think any of them are here.

 

[Halloween Jack]

Mr. Stu North doesn't belong in the NHL, so give his A to Scheifele.
I think Little should get Wheeler's old A. Until Scheifele came along I don't know if anyone in the franchise could match the work ethic of Bryan Little. He deserves it, and that familiar sounding extension of around 6Y/$6M.

 

[Halloween Jack]

Me neither. I'm notoriously cynical of the Jets management but have been a huge fan of Scheifele since his 4 point exhibition against Columbus. (Aside from playoffs, that game is still my favorite game in 2.0 history and probably always will be.)

There are still a few "Couturier>Scheifele" idiots on twitter, but I don't think any of them are here.

Some of them are in charge of team North America

 

[veganhunter]

There might have been the odd person who said Scheifele was a bust (which based on his junior numbers would have been just as funny then as it is now), I think the big controversy was whether he was a better pick than Couturier or Hamilton. The jury is still out on that. Scheifele outscores Couturier but he is used completely differently and his shot suppression is vastly better than Scheifele's.

 

[YWGinYYZ]

There might have been the odd person who said Scheifele was a bust (which based on his junior numbers would have been just as funny then as it is now), I think the big controversy was whether he was a better pick than Couturier or Hamilton. The jury is still out on that. Scheifele outscores Couturier but he is used completely differently and his shot suppression is vastly better than Scheifele's.

I wouldn't say vastly, and many other aspects of Scheif's game are better:

Also this:

So, Couturier has had the more difficult deployments, but he and Scheif are grouped together much more closely than their other draft cohorts, who seem to get pretty cushy deployments (minus Huberdeau, but he doesn't beat his assignments, while Couts and Scheif do).

I really like Couturier - I wish we ALSO had him. But I prefer Scheif and his scoring.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

If Perreault re-signed for 4 or 5 more years, does anyone think he would be a good A?
C Wheeler/Scheif
A Scheif/Wheeler

A Perreault? Little?

Perreault will be 29 when this contract expires. 3 years to age 32 is the right term for him I think. As hard as he plays and the pounding he takes I don't think he will last much past 32. Just my guess but 3 years is what I would offer him.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I see him more in that Toews range, good for 60ish points and occasionally knocking on the door of 70. I absolutely love Scheifele though.

That sounds about right. I don't want to overhype Scheifele but I like the Toews comparison more and more. Does that sound like too much if he played on a contender? 25-30 goals + 30-35 assists = 60-65 pts for several consecutive peak years, maybe 70 once.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Yeah, I think he would. Maurice talks about "compete" a lot, and nobody brings that more than Perreault. That kind of play is infectious. I'd like to show the younger guys that it is also recognized and rewarded.

I think he gets left out of the picture a lot, because he wasn't part of the original core, nor is he a drafted member of the younger core.



I dunno about Buff either. But maybe - the "A" comes with a lot less media focus than the "C".

But Little is a great choice in terms of dedication, talent, and work ethic.

Heh, they should create a new letter to give Trouba. Maybe an "S" (for "Sorry").

E for effort? No. N for nice try? No. T for try a little harder. Yup that's the one.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

There might have been the odd person who said Scheifele was a bust (which based on his junior numbers would have been just as funny then as it is now), I think the big controversy was whether he was a better pick than Couturier or Hamilton. The jury is still out on that. Scheifele outscores Couturier but he is used completely differently and his shot suppression is vastly better than Scheifele's.

AINEC. Couturier has had better linemates this year too. Look at the last 2 bars.

Nothing against Couturier. He is outstanding defensively. A very good 3C, an adequate 2C. But I think it is about time this one was put to bed.

Edit: I see YWG beat me with the Warrior Chart. Mine's more up to date though.

 

[Hobble]

Put Scheifele on the Hawks, and there is no question he would be the best from his draft.

As he and Ehlers and Wheeler develop and get some chemistry, I think we'll really see some magic!

Hope to get a Heritage jersey with #55 on the back!! (Seeing as my previous two jerseys were Ladd and Pavelec :/)

 

[veganhunter]

For the record I wasn't saying I like Couturier more (I much prefer Scheifele at this point) just saying you could probably cobble together an argument that Couturier is close to Scheifele in value considering usage and his defensive game.

 

[veganhunter]

That would look weird....STU_RT

This legitimately made me chuckle!

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

For the record I wasn't saying I like Couturier more (I much prefer Scheifele at this point) just saying you could probably cobble together an argument that Couturier is close to Scheifele in value considering usage and his defensive game.

Probably have no trouble at all getting that done in the Philly board.