Confirmed with Link: Marino signs long-term deal: 6 x 4.4m

[Tom Hanks]

The Penguins aren't going to be rebuilding at any point during the years of Marino's deal.

They're not going to sell as long as they have Crosby and Malkin (who will re-sign to leave Pittsburgh the same time as Crosby), and I think they'd try to Frankenstein a playoff team after they leave before blowing it up.



No I mean before the off-season

I feel more confident in Letang being moved next off-season than I felt about Hornqvist being moved this off-season.

I was just being a smartass

Now is that because of the Pens wanting too or because of what teams will want (or option c both)

 

[Gurglesons]

I don’t understand how moving Letang unless the team is floundering makes sense.

And moving on from him if he costs too much in UFA is the right move tbh. But, I don’t really see
him pushing for anything beyond his current contract.

 

[Kristopher Letang]

I feel more confident in Letang being moved next off-season than I felt about Hornqvist being moved this off-season.

I think it’s the opposite. The fact that Marino costs barely anything means that Letang is gonna stay.

If we had to pay Marino top dollars I’d be worried about my fav player leaving the club but we can easily keep both now.

Rossi’s article on this deal seems to hint at Letang’s next year being his last with PIT.

Rossi? Great, Letang is staying.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

JR has a hard on for term. I like Marino but 4yrs max. No matter who it is.

 

[Ryder71]

JR has a hard on for term. I like Marino but 4yrs max. No matter who it is.

I believe it to be worth this risk, and I do see some risk here. But IMO the potential reward makes it worth doing.

 

[Tom Hanks]

A bunch of Twitter comments of not knowing who this guy is. Probably Oiler fans

 

[WheresRamziAbid]

By 'almost exactly the same', do you mean one has been used as a minute munching top pairing defenseman against the other team's top players and the other has not?

There offensive production even strength has been almost exactly the same.

you can caveat that with many things. Role, sample size etc.

But the fact with a capotal F is that even strength John Marino (the defensive guy) has produced the same as Werenski (the offensive guy).

Now Werenski is obviously very good on the PP and thats a notch in his belt to be sure.

But if i had the choice to give one of these two guys 20 even strength minutes in a game all signs point that i should pick Marino.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

I don't think Matheson will ever be an insurance policy for Letang, just like Daley was never an insurance policy for Letang. What you hope Matheson can develop into is a 2nd pair D that can combine with Pettersson and make a good 2nd pair. You hope Marino can step into Letang's shoes and replace him, but you're hoping Matheson just becomes Daley 2.0.

My assumption in this "Letang UFA" insurance scenario was that Marino would take over 1RD and Matheson would slide into 2RD.

I don't think anyone in their right mind believes Matheson would leapfrog Marino.

 

[WheresRamziAbid]

No, is is a fact that Marino's ES per game numbers, based on one season, playing behind two of the greatest players of all time, are similar to Werenski's. Werenski plays for Columbus.

If you use your eyes, Werenski is just a better player, which is no slight on Marino. He's the best Dman on CBJ.

Marino was also attached to Jack Johnson for long stretches, recieved less minutes to accumulate points and got far heavier D zone usage.

This isnt a Werenski hit piece. Hes a good defenseman that excels on the PP. Thats valuable.

But even strength, in the sample we have, ( which is imperfect, i know) Marino has been equal offensively and better defensively at even strength.

That doesnt mean it will continue, it doesn't mean anything other than being an accurate description of what has happened.

 

[ColePens]

Play chicken w/ Letang and get him at a hometown discount. Even if that means getting rid of Pets.

 

[mpp9]

Unless everything goes right on D AND Letang could bring back a dynamic forward that can put this team over the top, I’m keeping him.

I’d sooner move on from a guy like Dumo who can more easily be replaced. I bet Dumo and Letang’s values aren’t even that far apart either.

 

[Scandale du Jour]

Play chicken w/ Letang and get him at a hometown discount. Even if that means getting rid of Pets.

Only other place I think he would go is Montreal and they won't have the cap to get him.

 

[KIRK]

Play chicken w/ Letang and get him at a hometown discount. Even if that means getting rid of Pets.

I'd get rid of Pets no matter how the game of chicken plays out.

 

[KIRK]

Only other place I think he would go is Montreal and they won't have the cap to get him.

Letang has a 12 team no trade list. That means 18 options next summer. Can he structure that list to effectively preclude everyone but Montreal? I can't see that.

No-Trade/No-Move Clauses — The Fourth Period

 

[Scandale du Jour]

Letang has a 12 team no trade list. That means 18 options next summer. Can he structure that list to effectively preclude everyone but Montreal? I can't see that.

No-Trade/No-Move Clauses — The Fourth Period

I was talking as a UFA.

Trading him would be dumb. We went over that many times.

You won't get enough value to justify the move (34-year-old UFA-to-be).

 

[KIRK]

I was talking as a UFA.

Trading him would be dumb. We went over that many times.

You won't get enough value to justify the move (34-year-old UFA-to-be).

Oh, as a UFA? Pittsburgh or Montreal is most likely, for sure, but you never know for sure.

Who are his Quebecois besties established on other teams throughout the league these days?

 

[Scandale du Jour]

Oh, as a UFA? Pittsburgh or Montreal is most likely, for sure, but you never know for sure.

Who are his Quebecois besties established on other teams throughout the league these days?

Back in the Yanic Perreault Summer Tournament Days, he was with the Latendresse, Fleury, Brassard crew.

So Brassard and Fleury most likely. Perron too.

 

[Gurglesons]

Back in the Yanic Perreault Summer Tournament Days, he was with the Latendresse, Fleury, Brassard crew.

So Brassard and Fleury most likely. Perron too.

So what you are saying is we miss the playoffs and Rutherford trades Letang for Faulk?

 

[KIRK]

Back in the Yanic Perreault Summer Tournament Days, he was with the Latendresse, Fleury, Brassard crew.

So Brassard and Fleury most likely. Perron too.

He and Giroux are ass grab buddies too, no? I'd say there's no way he'd do it, but then there was no way Talbot or Jagr would do it either . . .

 

[Scandale du Jour]

So what you are saying is we miss the playoffs and Rutherford trades Letang for Faulk?

I'd never EVER say that Letang will be traded.

 

[KIRK]

So what you are saying is we miss the playoffs and Rutherford trades Letang for Faulk?

That is the stupidest ******* idea I can imagine, so, in a word, YES, I bet that's exactly what Scandy is suggesting.

 

[KIRK]

I'd never EVER say that Letang will be traded.

Yeah but if he were, that's precisely the type of dumb ass thing JR would do, oui?

 

[Scandale du Jour]

He and Giroux are ass grab buddies too, no? I'd say there's no way he'd do it, but then there was no way Talbot or Jagr would do it either . . .

Mario will keep him.

I am pretty sure trading Crosby, Malkin or Letang needs clearance from the big guy.

 

[Gurglesons]

Mario will keep him.

I am pretty sure trading Crosby, Malkin or Letang needs clearance from the big guy.

Hasn’t it been leaked that Letang doesn’t have that protection? I feel like Yohe or Rossi talked about it on Penultimate or something.

 

[Scandale du Jour]

Yeah but if he were, that's precisely the type of dumb ass thing JR would do, oui?

He'd try, maybe.

Pretty sure trading any of the big three requires ownership approval.

Would Mario give that approval? Unless Letang ASKS to leave? I doubt it.