Um except last year, when he also had one suspendable incident, he finished 7th. He's having a stronger statistical season this year than last.
Marchand is currently top 5 for the Hart. Change my Mind.
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It's rather comical how much space this one player takes up in so many fans heads. That someone would even take the amount of time needed to do something like this for an opposing teams player is literally laugh out loud funny. I feel like Seinfeld needs to take at few of you on one of his 'Comedians in Cars having Coffee" episodes.
Its actually rather sad that there is enough video of him and his cheap shots in order to make a full video highlighting them.
Someone is going to retaliate. It's inevitable. You can't keep doing what Marchand's been doing without retribution. Player's livelihoods are at stake.
It's too bad because he's a wonderful player when he's not doing dangerous stuff. Accidents happen. However, you can't hit players with intent to injure. It's too bad because he's definitely Hart Trophy worthy.
It's too bad because he's a wonderful player when he's not doing dangerous stuff. Accidents happen. However, you can't hit players with intent to injure. It's too bad because he's definitely Hart Trophy worthy.
It's not just the fans. Players can't stand him. It's one to be an agitant, but it's another to be a danger on the ice. People's livelihoods are on the line. When your own organization keeps you out of a game AND his teammates don't respond ... that says it all. Even his own team is tired of his antics. Marchand needs to grow up.
Dubinski got crushed in a fight and that was s senior moment. At some point Marchand will piss
off someone who has had enough. When that happens, he may get it finally. If not, he will be singled out to be hammered until he does. Players detest any player who repeatedly puts careers at risk.
off someone who has had enough. When that happens, he may get it finally. If not, he will be singled out to be hammered until he does. Players detest any player who repeatedly puts careers at risk.
"Change my mind" threads need to stop.
Not only is it obnoxious, but the OP usually backs up their opinion with nothing making them look ignorant.
Not only is it obnoxious, but the OP usually backs up their opinion with nothing making them look ignorant.
powerstuck
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In the end, Bruins fans or not, we all hate when Marchand does something stupid that takes him out of our team's lineup.
But who ever says they wouldn't Brad Marchand on their team is a f***ing liar !
But who ever says they wouldn't Brad Marchand on their team is a f***ing liar !
ManofSteel55
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Nope. Too far down the points list. Can't be a Hart finalist as a forward if you're outside the top 10 in scoring. And yes, that counts far more than the "but his team didn't make the playoffs" argument, which sucks, IMO.
In relation to the OP, you can't say that Boston's resurgence is only because of Marchand as you implied. He's a big part of it of course, but the emergence of a pile of depth players who are far better than expected at this stage has to be considered a much bigger factor.
In relation to the OP, you can't say that Boston's resurgence is only because of Marchand as you implied. He's a big part of it of course, but the emergence of a pile of depth players who are far better than expected at this stage has to be considered a much bigger factor.
That's true, but the narrative is starting to change. What we once thought was an intense desire to win ... people now wonder if there's something mentally wrong with Marchand.
It's one thing if it's a one off or an accident ... or even retribution. However, Marchand constantly does insanely stupid things on the ice that endangers his peers. And then to top it off, he makes the worst excuses. Does think people are that dumb? At some point, enough is enough. He's making fools of his organization, teammates, and fans who defend him.
powerstuck
Nordiques Hopes Lies
Well, that goes down to the league being weak when it comes to suspensions.
I've never been okay with suspending a player (no matter who) for only a game or two. Shows you right there that the suspension is more to answer the ''What will the league do'' than to actually educate players.
Has anyone been significantly suspended since Torres 40 games ? I don't think so.
If Bruins lose Marchand for 5 games, sadly I'm not even sure someone in the organization talks to him about what he did. And same goes for every other player suspended 1-2-3 games. But if you suspend the player for 10-20 games...now it becomes significant for the organization and player can actually take time to reflect on actions.
I am a Bruins fans. I like what Marchand brings to the team when he CONTROLS THE PUCK and shoots on the goal. Of course I hate it when he goes ''Headless Huntsman Mode''.
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SaltySkywalker
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Hall certainly is carrying his team and should be a hart finalist but...how do not have mackinnon on those lists if you’re using the same criteria? I don’t think Hall has carried his team the way Mackinnon has. Mack has way more points in 4 less played games. Besides rantanen, it’s not like Mack has a fire team beside him either.
Seems like recency bias with Hall’s recent point streak. It’s one thing to get a point in consecutive games but when the other is getting 4 & 5 point nights almost night in and night out...
Seems like recency bias with Hall’s recent point streak. It’s one thing to get a point in consecutive games but when the other is getting 4 & 5 point nights almost night in and night out...
Bet you never even saw the one play. You just take the word of the absolutely laughable DOPS.
Alberta_OReilly_Fan
Bruin fan since 1975
There are people who wouldn't want gretzky on their team cause he was too soft... or subban on their team because hes colorful
So im sure we can find people that wouldnt want marchand
Theres always people out their with stupid ignorant opinions if we search hard enough
I would put a team with Gretzky, Subban and Marchand on it against anyone and expect it to at least be amazingly entertaining.
Subban is my secret mancrush across the league, I want him to be a Bruin so bad..
rocketdan9
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You should
He is a PPGP (1.5), 40 goal scorer threat, one of the best penalty killers and a top 10-12 defensive player in the league.
Who else in in the top 5-7 (scoring leaders) can you say the same about?
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he's missed too much time and he's not even the most valuable player on his line. he's the best winger in the league and Boston should be thrilled, but I don't think he should be in the top 5 for the Hart
No one disavows Marchand's talent. He's a great player. The issue is his head. At some point his antics becomes more of a distraction than his talent.
It's the same issue Patrick Kane dealt with. He had to get his stuff together. When he did, he won the Hart.
At this point, everyone (including his own team) is going, "what are you doing?" That's not what an MVP does.
Alberta_OReilly_Fan
Bruin fan since 1975
I think us marchand fans have to accept reality... hart is a rep trophy. Many voters will vote for whoever is leading the league in scoring and many others will remember who they were told is great by the big talk show hosts.
I think its far more interesting who wins the linsey award from the players
Alberta_OReilly_Fan
Bruin fan since 1975
Im not sure he loses something if he dials it back. Stan mikita went from dirtiest player in game to lady byng... he did ok
Bobby clarke stayed dirty his entire career
Im not sure what has history taught us? Can a rat play like a saint and still maintain his elite level impact?
rocketdan9
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Exactly.... Heart winner imo should be the best two way player in the league
Unless the scoring leader has 25 plus more points (relative to games played) and also like a plus 20. In this case such player does not need to play defense as he is dancing around the offensive end more than half the time
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