Marc Bergevin: Apocalypse Soon Edition (XIII)

[Deluded Puck]

Absolutely. The piechart of blame definitely includes scouting and development -- I just don't know how much of each.

I tend to believe that we have terrible gardening/greenhouse conditions. Our seeds aren’t put in optimum conditions to grow well.

 

[sampollock]

MB is primed for tonight's hot dog.....even will wear a yellow suit in case of a mustard spill

 

[salbutera]

MB is dumb enough to go in front of the press after they miss the playoffs again, and tell us all of the great core he has

If he knows he can get away with it with no fear....I would call that anything but dumb

 

[BLONG7]

I feel like the crazy guy on the street corner yelling about the apocalypse. I keep harping on the rotten foundation of our pipeline, and at the risk of repeating that message too many times, I remain convinced all issues stem from it. Poor scouting, poor amateur coaching, zero core players we've drafted ourselves. A decade of passively neglecting our prospect pool has left this team in a sinkhole. Other teams like New York put real energy into their pipeline and have started to see results. Yet over here Geoff and Marc continue to fill potholes rather than do a proper excavation and repair. Trades keep us from sinking deeper, but they don't actually fix the damage.

I'm pretty sure Geoff and Marc see the problem. I don't think they're clueless. The problem might be that they're in so deep they don't have the will to implement real change. It requires an admission of failure and a gutting of staff and veteran players. The question is, are they willing to take the public heat for placing playoff hopes on hold for a couple of years? Can they stop with the damn fake hype and stop condescending to the fans? It takes work and PR -- can these guys finally bite the f*cking bullet and act like leaders?

Those two clowns are the problem, I am not convinced they realize this. It's a great post, but I do think they are clueless.

 

[Kimota]

Wow Serge Savard was on TVA Sport saying it's unacceptable that each year people are wondering if the Habs are gonna make the playoffs. He said when he was there, the goal was to win the Stanley Cup.

He also was not impressed how last year Molson on the last game of the season went to congradulate Poehling when they Habs were not making the playoffs. That shows the sort of live and let live approach of Molson.

Savard also said that the Habs should let young players like KK play to give them experience.

Finally he said he still has "le feu sacré" the fire in his belly as far as hockey. Would be interesting to have him above the GM.

 

[Ozmodiar]

MB is dumb enough to go in front of the press after they miss the playoffs again, and tell us all of the great core he has

MB could have written his post season presser notes back in September. That’s how predictable it will be.

 

[mariolemieux66]

Wow Serge Savard was on TVA Sport saying it's unacceptable that each year people are wondering if the Habs are gonna make the playoffs. He said when he was there, the goal was to win the Stanley Cup.

He also was not impressed how last year Molson on the last game of the season went to congradulate Poehling when they Habs were not making the playoffs. That shows the sort of live and let live approach of Molson.

Savard also said that the Habs should let players like KK play to give them experience.

Finally he said he still has "le feu sacré" the fire in his belly as far as hockey. Would be interesting to have him above the GM.

The organization wont be happy being criticized by a Half of Famer.

 

[Kimota]

The organization wont be happy being criticized by a Half of Famer.

If they were smart, they would listen to him. He wants them to be better, right.

 

[lo striver]

If they were smart, they would listen to him. He wants them to be better, right.

they already listened to him not very long ago. that is how we ended up with Bergevin. merci, Serge.

 

[Kimota]

they already listened to him not very long ago. that is how we ended up with Bergevin. merci, Serge.

It wasn't a bad choice in itself. But the problem is that MB doesn't have someone to push him, Molson is too much of a slacker spoiled rich boy that is content.

 

[CHfan1]

Wow Serge Savard was on TVA Sport saying it's unacceptable that each year people are wondering if the Habs are gonna make the playoffs. He said when he was there, the goal was to win the Stanley Cup.

He also was not impressed how last year Molson on the last game of the season went to congradulate Poehling when they Habs were not making the playoffs. That shows the sort of live and let live approach of Molson.

Savard also said that the Habs should let players like KK play to give them experience.

Finally he said he still has "le feu sacré" the fire in his belly as far as hockey. Would be interesting to have him above the GM.

He’s absolutely right and it’s great to hear from a Stanley Cup winning GM and Hall of Famer.

 

[ZUKI]

It's funny hearing MB talk about not rebuilding, not tearing it down.


Meanwhile, the Rangers sold a number of players, added multiple first and second round picks.


Now, they're already on the brink of competing. They have 2 NHL caliber goaltenders in their pipeline. Zibanejad has developed into a high end center. They have a ton of talent coming up. They have 4 defensemen who can move the puck.

Like, they were better than MBs Habs while MBs Habs were competing and they're already better after tearing it down.

How much more evidence the man has no clue what he's doing does Molson need ?

They aren't exactly Cup Contenders . Will they even make the PO's ? i don't think so .
Best of their move is the signing of Panarin, but in fact , that last wanted to play there because of his wife career . Hard to give the GM all the merit. But it's true that they have a good bank of good prospects and young players

 

[CrAzYNiNe]

Wow Serge Savard was on TVA Sport saying it's unacceptable that each year people are wondering if the Habs are gonna make the playoffs. He said when he was there, the goal was to win the Stanley Cup.

He also was not impressed how last year Molson on the last game of the season went to congradulate Poehling when they Habs were not making the playoffs. That shows the sort of live and let live approach of Molson.

Savard also said that the Habs should let players like KK play to give them experience.

Finally he said he still has "le feu sacré" the fire in his belly as far as hockey. Would be interesting to have him above the GM.

He picked MB... Not sure I want him to be in charge of finding the next GM unless he is given carte blanche (no restriction on language, etc.) for his next GM.

 

[SOLR]

The organization wont be happy being criticized by a Half of Famer.

At least he's half a famer

 

[DAChampion]

He picked MB... Not sure I want him to be in charge of finding the next GM unless he is given carte blanche (no restriction on language, etc.) for his next GM.

MB didn't work out, but that doesn't mean that he was a terrible choice.

Sometimes, a good choice doesn't work out.

 

[CrAzYNiNe]

MB didn't work out, but that doesn't mean that he was a terrible choice.

Sometimes, a good choice doesn't work out.

I agree, that's why I think if he can pick his best candidate and not the best candidate picked by the Quebec government, we may have someone who can get the job done.

Given what we know about MB 8 years later, he is a bull shitter. Easy to recognize he lied his way through the interview process.

 

[BLONG7]

MB didn't work out, but that doesn't mean that he was a terrible choice.

Sometimes, a good choice doesn't work out.

At the time, it did not seem like a bad choice................but just a few years later, it sure seems like it was beyond bad.

 

[Archijerej]

Can we please stop ignoring a star forward and a top pairing defenseman they signed, as well as a college star they traded for at a bargain price, because he specifically wanted to play for them, when we're praising the Rangers template? That's a fool's errand. It cannot be replicated in Montreal.

 

[Archijerej]

Delete.

 

[DAChampion]

Can we please stop ignoring a star forward and a top pairing defenseman they signed, as well as a college star they traded for at a bargain price, because he specifically wanted to play for them, when we're praising the Rangers template? That's a fool's errand. It cannot be replicated in Montreal.

Agreed.

Some models to build a great team are simply not viable.

And the Rangers are not even great.

 

[Whitesnake]

I''ll be EXTREMELY surprised if anything happens.

 

[LaP]

I''ll be EXTREMELY surprised if anything happens.

Nothing will happen we are 6 points behind (7 since we don't have the tie break). We would need to be at least a minimum of 10 points behind for him to sell. I would not be surprised if he acquires some 4th liners and 3rd pairing dmen ... again.

 

[salbutera]

Wow Serge Savard was on TVA Sport saying it's unacceptable that each year people are wondering if the Habs are gonna make the playoffs. He said when he was there, the goal was to win the Stanley Cup.

He also was not impressed how last year Molson on the last game of the season went to congradulate Poehling when they Habs were not making the playoffs. That shows the sort of live and let live approach of Molson.

Savard also said that the Habs should let young players like KK play to give them experience.

Finally he said he still has "le feu sacré" the fire in his belly as far as hockey. Would be interesting to have him above the GM.

I wonder if the high school dropout alcoholic has finally figured out that Terry Ryan does not look anything like Shane Doan.

 

[LaP]

Wow Serge Savard was on TVA Sport saying it's unacceptable that each year people are wondering if the Habs are gonna make the playoffs. He said when he was there, the goal was to win the Stanley Cup.

He also was not impressed how last year Molson on the last game of the season went to congradulate Poehling when they Habs were not making the playoffs. That shows the sort of live and let live approach of Molson.

Savard also said that the Habs should let young players like KK play to give them experience.

Finally he said he still has "le feu sacré" the fire in his belly as far as hockey. Would be interesting to have him above the GM.

Honestly if Savard is interested in the position of president wth is he not hired yet?

 

[salbutera]

Honestly if Savard is interested in the position of president wth is he not hired yet?

The catalyst for the orgs present demise, missing former Soviet players was catastrophic, not knowing Terry Ryan is not Shane Doan was simply idiotic.