Sportsnet: Maple Leafs must add proven defenders, move on from all-offence identity

[lottster14]

Leafs dominated, Andersen did okay but did let some softies in, opposing goaltenders played out of their f***ing gourde.

Nothing else to learn here.

We absolutely did not dominate. Why do I keep seeing this lie?

Especially the night they played uninspired brutal hockey and then exploded in the last 3 minutes in game 4.

 

[Eddo22]

Yes, I think certain players could have been better. Yes I think that the Leafs could have won the series and technically almost did. However, after seeing the Boo Jackets and Lightening play almost 3 games in 1 last night I don't feel so bad about the Leafs loosing.

I personally think Spezza and JT should be traded as they are getting older, slower and will likely do so again next season. I'm on the fence about Anderson. I think Campbell should be given the reigns for a while next year at the 1st of the year and see how he does.

 

[thewave]

Lying to yourselves and to the people works for a bit. The lack of results tells all.

 

[Canadian Game]

Speaking of Toronto’s defence

 

[Dekes For Days]

Yep, there's a reason why the expression 'defense wins championships' is widely understood.

Because people love repeating incorrect statements? That seems to be the reason.

 

[ACC1224]

Speaking of Toronto’s defence

 

[ULF_55]

We absolutely did not dominate. Why do I keep seeing this lie?

Especially the night they played uninspired brutal hockey and then exploded in the last 3 minutes in game 4.

yes their lack of scoring isn't an indicator of dominance.

they had to be better offensively.

getting shutout doesn't result in many wins.

 

[lottster14]

Speaking of Toronto’s defence

Dubas is so intelligent holy shit mind blown

 

[rumman]

Yep, there's a reason why the expression 'defense wins championships' is widely understood.

apparently that expressions not spoken in Dubas' shanahan's offices...........

 

[BrannigansLaw]

Speaking of Toronto’s defence

That is just straight up f***ing hilarious. Do we all need to do a polygraph before we can see the data?

 

[Polaris1010]

Because people love repeating incorrect statements? That seems to be the reason.

Defense wins championships.

That is sports wisdom from people who played the game and who were architects of those winning teams in the game.

This spans different sports, and different eras.

In Dubas' world, he has his own internal stats, made by his own underlyings, to show how good their own Leafs players are like Ceci and Kerfoot.

Dubas quickly becoming a laughing stock.

This is how you run a fiefdom in the Dark Ages and not a NHL club in the 21st century.

 

[LeafalCrusader]

Speaking of Toronto’s defence

 

[IPS]

Speaking of Toronto’s defence

Value defensively? Does he mean value to the team playing against him?

 

[Dekes For Days]

Defense wins championships.

It factually does not more than offense and goaltending.

 

[Bomber0104]

Defense wins championships.

That is sports wisdom from people who played the game and who were architects of those winning teams in the game.

This spans different sports, and different eras.

In Dubas' world, he has his own internal stats, made by his own underlyings, to show how good their own Leafs players are like Ceci and Kerfoot.

Dubas quickly becoming a laughing stock.

This is how you run a fiefdom in the Dark Ages and not a NHL club in the 21st century.

Bang on.

 

[Commander Clueless]

Speaking of Toronto’s defence

I'm sure the internal metrics reflect him as a solid AHL defenseman.

 

[A1LeafNation]

We have 4 M to spend if Dubas squeezes the other players on deals, and guys like Johnsson and Kapanen go:

Robertson	0.85	Matthews	11.634	Nylander	6.963
Mikheyev	1.5	Tavares	11	Marner	10.893
Korshkov	0.925	Kerfoot	3.5	Hyman	2.25
Clifford	0.9	Engvall	1.25	UFA	0.9
		Spezza	0.9
	Rielly	5
	Muzzin	5.65	Holl	2
	Dermott	1.75	Liljegren	0.864
		Sandin	0.894
		Andersen	5
		Campbell	1.65
		Kessel	1.2
		Total Cap	77.473
		Salary Cap	81.5
		Cap Space	4.027

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[rumman]

 

[Bomber0104]

We have 4 M to spend if Dubas squeezes the other players on deals, and guys like Johnsson and Kapanen go:

Robertson	0.85	Matthews	11.634	Nylander	6.963
Mikheyev	1.5	Tavares	11	Marner	10.893
Korshkov	0.925	Kerfoot	3.5	Hyman	2.25
Clifford	0.9	Engvall	1.25	UFA	0.9
		Spezza	0.9
	Rielly	5
	Muzzin	5.65	Holl	2
	Dermott	1.75	Liljegren	0.864
		Sandin	0.894
		Andersen	5
		Campbell	1.65
		Kessel	1.2
		Total Cap	77.473
		Salary Cap	81.5
		Cap Space	4.027

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

You forgot one of our key cogs, Martin Marincin...

 

[Morbo]

Because people love repeating incorrect statements? That seems to be the reason.

People love their wise-sounding sayings. applies to more than just sports, but sports is a great example.

 

[Bomber0104]

People love their wise-sounding sayings. applies to more than just sports, but sports is a great example.

Tell me about it.

Remember all the catch-phrases Brian Burke used to churn out and all the people that used to fall for them?

 

[Morbo]

Tell me about it.

Remember all the catch-phrases Brian Burke used to churn out and all the people that used to fall for them?

You mean like "truculence", "pugnacity" and tough heavy gritty physical play being really important?

those catchphrases?

 

[Bomber0104]

You mean like "truculence", "pugnacity" and tough heavy gritty physical play being really important?

those catchphrases?

Blue and White disease was actually one of my personal favorites.

Probably applicable to this team right now

 

[ACC1224]

People love their wise-sounding sayings. applies to more than just sports, but sports is a great example.

Particularly when they're true.

 

[lottster14]

You mean like "truculence", "pugnacity" and tough heavy gritty physical play being really important?

those catchphrases?

If you don't think physical play and being tough isn't important in the playoffs you have no idea what you're talking about, sorry.

Good team structure starts with a reliable and strong defense, and you need to be strong on the puck, along the boards, and tough on 50/50 battles.

You can't be easily rattled or mentally soft either. The leafs are. Your argument cannot be backed up when we have had four 1st series exits in a row, and we're not a physical team.