Confirmed with Link: Lyubushkin to ANA for MIN 2025 4th

[Zman5778]

We're going to have Clague and Bryson in Rochester. No matter how much people won't like it that's honestly good depth with NHL experience.

Bryson and Clague as organizational 8/9s with Johnson as our likely 10........is better than a lot of NHL teams as far as depth goes.

 

[Chainshot]

Bryson and Clague as organizational 8/9s with Johnson as our likely 10........is better than a lot of NHL teams as far as depth goes.

Johnson may even push to the 8 sooner rather than later. It seems better than last year at this moment.

 

[CaliSabresfan24]

Johnson may even push to the 8 sooner rather than later. It seems better than last year at this moment.

Depending how they both do in Roch, Johnson and Novikov should leap over Clague and Bryson on the depth chart.

 

[Zman5778]

Depending how they both do in Roch, Johnson and Novikov should leap over Clague and Bryson on the depth chart.

Expecting Novikov to leap over two guys with plenty of NHL experience seems like a stretch. I'm hopeful he'll be an NHL regular in due course......but I don't think he gets an NHL game this year unless there's an apocalyptic run of injuries.

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

Anyone know what the Venn diagram of "why did they protect Ullmark over Carrier" and people's opinions on this thread looks like?

 

[toomuchsauce]

lyobushkin we hardly knew ye

 

[toomuchsauce]

kevyn adams shopping for defensemen

 

[CaliSabresfan24]

Expecting Novikov to leap over two guys with plenty of NHL experience seems like a stretch. I'm hopeful he'll be an NHL regular in due course......but I don't think he gets an NHL game this year unless there's an apocalyptic run of injuries.

I should've clarified that I meant after this season that Johnson and Novikov could leap Clague and Bryson but both probably won't receiver contracts after this season anyway.

 

[dotcommunism]

Expecting Novikov to leap over two guys with plenty of NHL experience seems like a stretch. I'm hopeful he'll be an NHL regular in due course......but I don't think he gets an NHL game this year unless there's an apocalyptic run of injuries.

I think you mean "until"

 

[sufferer]

Damn, kinda surprised. I didn't even see this til now lol.

 

[Dingo44]

Hope they gifted him a case of SmartWater as a parting gift...all right all right all right

 

[Bendium]

I have zero issue with this trade, but for people calling Bryson and Clague good depth? Bryson and Clague are NOT NHL defenseman. They are emergency measures at best.

At least Lyubushkin was an NHL defensman when healthy.

KA still has some work to do here.

 

[Gras]

I have zero issue with this trade, but for people calling Bryson and Clague good depth? Bryson and Clague are NOT NHL defenseman. They are emergency measures at best.

At least Lyubushkin was an NHL defensman when healthy.

KA still has some work to do here.

How many of these NHL defensemen that are out there are fine with being #8+ on the depth chart

 

[Jim Bob]

I have zero issue with this trade, but for people calling Bryson and Clague good depth? Bryson and Clague are NOT NHL defenseman. They are emergency measures at best.

At least Lyubushkin was an NHL defensman when healthy.

KA still has some work to do here.

Bryson and Clague are average "get through waivers to the AHL" depth D.

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

I have zero issue with this trade, but for people calling Bryson and Clague good depth? Bryson and Clague are NOT NHL defenseman. They are emergency measures at best.

At least Lyubushkin was an NHL defensman when healthy.

KA still has some work to do here.

Very few teams have NHL caliber defesemen playing in the AHL. Your best case scenario is an ELC who could be brought up.

 

[Bendium]

How many of these NHL defensemen that are out there are fine with being #8+ on the depth chart

Bryson and Clague are average "get through waivers to the AHL" depth D.

Very few teams have NHL caliber defesemen playing in the AHL. Your best case scenario is an ELC who could be brought up.

Alternatively, the Sabres could have more developing Dmen with upside, who still have years of waiver exemption, fighting to make the roster. This might have taken some planning the last few years in how we drafted, OR the willingness to trade a forward prospect or two for a defensive prospect or two. Bryson/Clague is a poor place to end up as your depth option IMO.

 

[Gras]

Alternatively, the Sabres could have more developing Dmen with upside, who still have years of waiver exemption, fighting to make the roster. This might have taken some planning the last few years in how we drafted, OR the willingness to trade a forward prospect or two for a defensive prospect or two. Bryson/Clague is a poor place to end up as your depth option IMO.

Like RyJo

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

Alternatively, the Sabres could have more developing Dmen with upside, who still have years of waiver exemption, fighting to make the roster. This might have taken some planning the last few years in how we drafted, OR the willingness to trade a forward prospect or two for a defensive prospect or two. Bryson/Clague is a poor place to end up as your depth option IMO.

As already pointed out that's what Ryan Johnson and Novikov are.

 

[Gras]

As already pointed out that's what Ryan Johnson and Novikov are.

I mean after the 1st month in Roch RyJo probably moves ahead of Bryson & Clague on the depth chart if he isnt there already.

 

[joshjull]

Boosh getting traded was unsurprising.

He hardly saw the ice (9min 5v5 atoi) at the end of the season during the final push for a playoff spot.

 

[Zman5778]

Boosh getting traded was unsurprising.

He hardly saw the ice (9min 5v5 atoi) at the end of the season during the final push for a playoff spot.

I totally get the argument that Boosh as a #8 organizationally might be better served for us this year than a 4th round pick in 2 years. But that would require us to carry 8 defensemen.

But Boosh getting traded is a CLEAR signal that we're only going to carry 7 defensemen, and we wanted to do right by Boosh (and by extension, Stillman) in not demoting him.

To me -- this is the clearest signal yet that we're going with 13/7/3 to start the year.

 

[joshjull]

I totally get the argument that Boosh as a #8 organizationally might be better served for us this year than a 4th round pick in 2 years. But that would require us to carry 8 defensemen.

But Boosh getting traded is a CLEAR signal that we're only going to carry 7 defensemen, and we wanted to do right by Boosh (and by extension, Stillman) in not demoting him.

To me -- this is the clearest signal yet that we're going with 13/7/3 to start the year.

That seems to be the way it's going if Bryson is waived to Rochester.

 

[Bendium]

Like RyJo

Exactly like RyJo, only 1-2 more in that AHL to NHL phase.

 

[Bendium]

As already pointed out that's what Ryan Johnson and Novikov are.

Novikov is not ready to be NHL depth yet. Maybe by the end of the year. We will see. We don't know about RJ yet either.

There is a group defending the current position that is missing my point.

We have Bryson/Clague as our depth because we don't have prospects ready yet to be relied on as depth. Will we get there someday? We might, but we are not there now, which IMO has been poor planning by management, and failure to keep a more balanced pipeline. The lack of balance could be ok, if the management staff showed the willingnes to make the trades to balance it, but so far we have not seen that.

I never again want to see Bryson playing an NHL game for the Sabres. Make it happen KA.

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

Novikov is not ready to be NHL depth yet. Maybe by the end of the year. We will see. We don't know about RJ yet either.

There is a group defending the current position that is missing my point.

We have Bryson/Clague as our depth because we don't have prospects ready yet to be relied on as depth. Will we get there someday? We might, but we are not there now, which IMO has been poor planning by management, and failure to keep a more balanced pipeline. The lack of balance could be ok, if the management staff showed the willingnes to make the trades to balance it, but so far we have not seen that.

I never again want to see Bryson playing an NHL game for the Sabres. Make it happen KA.

You're digging into a mole hill preparing to die on it?

Teams rarely balance out their prospects with like for like F <-> D trades. That just isn't a common practice. You pick BPA and hope the chips fall where you need them to.