Lucic will have likely have hearing for hit on Joseph (upd: fined $10,000)

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The first chance Lucic got to take him to task, he took it. Joseph boarded Russell and didn’t get a penalty then the officials handed the Lightning two power plays. Lucic doesn’t PK and I don’t think Joseph plays PP.

Milan took a number. It’s as old as hockey.

He’ll probably get a game or two, and that’s whatever. I think 2+2+10 was appropriate punishment.
First chance to get him back is fine; the way he went about it is questionable though.

I don't see him getting more than a game anyway (assuming he's even suspended) considering everyone came out unscathed. I'm also surprised Joseph didn't get anything f0r his hit... easy two for boarding every single time.
 

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Honestly, a lot of the whining from Tampa fans about this event is because barely any of them have ever played hockey competitively themselves and they simply don't understand the game. They grew up in a tropical climate playing golf or something, not in the tundra playing hockey, if they did they would understand and appreciate what Lucic did for his teammates, regardless of which team they are a fan of.

I'd recommend you enjoy having a great team in a city that lacks hockey passion and doesn't deserve the riches they've been bestowed. Bow to the greatness of Stevie Y.
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Is that a justification for Lucic's barbaric attack on a rookie? Fans don't know the game??? Remember Lucic is making $6 M a year, this rookie has his future ahead of him, I'm certain when Lucic was in his rookie year he made mistakes, i doubt any veteran blind sided him like a coward. It would be face to face to drop the gloves, instead Lucic decided to blind side him, and for darn luck Joseph didn't get injured, it could have gone real bad for all involved. This is the issue, the game has evolved, we know through recent history the damage that could be done. Yes Joseph should have been penalized, and if you look at the play he didn't fully drive Russel in the boards, he changed direction on impact after Joseph realized Russell was vulnerable,his intent was to 'finish his check' (you hockey genius should know this saying), obviously a boarding call, and i don't see intent to injure. What LUCIC did, a veteran in this league, INTENDED to HURT Joseph, and for damn luck Joseph still has a hockey future ahead of him. How would you argue this to Josephs' parents?? How do you justify Lucics' actions, YOU CAN'T, so stop trying to claim superiority in knowledge of hockey because you live in the cold tundra, for this shameless act, from a player who is realizing the game has passed him by. If you truly believe Lucic was in the right, then we should continue to see the players go after each other for any missed penalty. There is a right way to do it, THIS WAS NOT!!

You do understand that Joseph was seen laughing and giggling on the bench not two minutes later?

If Lucic intended to hurt Joseph, Joseph would have needed extensive dental work and possibly a blood transfusion today. It’s that simple. In a very real way these players hold each other’s lives in their hands and Lucic was very careful to not injure Joseph - a lot more careful than Joseph was when he recklessly boarded two Oilers in vulnerable positions.

‘Oh won’t somebody think of the children!’ hand wringing at its finest. I wish this site had reddit style downvotes.
 
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It'd be a bigger punishment to force him to play more minutes, but meh.


This couldn't have been posted in the other Lucic thread thats been talking about the Lucic attack on Joseph for the past 14 hours??? Will we start another thread if Lucic gets suspended?
 

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If what Joseph was so bad (it should have been a penalty against him), why didn't any of the other 4 Oilers who were on the ice
go after Joseph immediately to stick up for Russel?


What Lucic did would have been perfectly fine had he been on he ice during he boarding, instead, he had to wait a few minutes before targeting him.

The specific targeting and blindsiding away from play is the issue and why he is having a hearing - which should just be a fine because it wasn't that severe.

They both should have just dropped gloves and settled things that way and be done with it.

I wonder if their gloves had cement on them. What a bunch of cowards not wanting to answer the bell.

(Am I doing it right, Oilers fans)
 
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Watch the whole clip. Lucic was screaming at him the entire shift and gave him a whack when he first got on the ice. Joseph didn’t want to answer the bell.

It was a shoulder to shoulder hit. It happens 50 times a game. Joseph didn’t have the puck, so he took an interference call. The glove on swat got him a roughing call, and giving him a face wash while sitting on him got him a 10 minute misconduct.

Still doesnt give him a license to blindside him and punch him while he is defenseless. Yes that is exactly what happened. Dont spin it as just interfered and roughed him. It was away from the play and if he just interfered and roughed him he wouldn't have a hearing.
 
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Oil Spill

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That was so egregious that I feel anything less than the book being thrown at him is too little. That had zero to do with any of the play. It was just straight up assault.

Rejoice, Oilers fans. This might be enough to void his contract.

Wow i'm hoping the sarcasm just flew over my head on this one.
 

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Bertuzzi who ?

Also when someone does that to one your players and Mcdavids on the ice you have to give a few shots back imo
 

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And with a little bit of bad luck, it would've been.

If Steve Moore gets up, skates off the ice and plays the next game, then Bertuzzi doesn't get banned for a year or whatever it was.
??? Are you f***king kidding me? Grow up kid....
 

ChaoticOrange

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Still doesnt give him a license to blindside him and punch him while he is defenseless. Yes that is exactly what happened. Dont spin it as just interfered and roughed him. It was away from the play and if he just interfered and roughed him he wouldn't have a hearing.

I don’t think you know what blindside means. It was a bodycheck, shoulder to shoulder, and not a particularly vicious one either. The half strength punch was penalty worthy, and he got one.
 

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NHL went full on pansy mode with the Matheson suspension not sure why they would stop now. Lucic gonna get a suspension for something that was a 2 minute minor penalty like 5 years ago.
 
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Same could be said about literally every play in hockey. It's a high speed, physical game. What Joseph did was in the run of play, though. I don't see why this piece is so difficult to understand.

It was a rough hit, should have been a penalty, but it was in the run of play. Things can happen, things can go bad.

Lucic hit Joseph away from the play and away from the puck.

That's why one is a bad missed call from the refs, and the other is a hearing.

Joseph's first hit on (tiny little) Yamamoto was let go by Lucic and the rest of the Oil. The 2nd hit, by the same no-name rookie, on a well respected vet deserved retribution whether or not Joseph was penalized. You can't have rookies coming into the league and not learning the rules of the jungle... sorry. Failure to send a message early is what leads to guys like Matt Cooke ruining careers.

This message was quite restrained by Lucic. I have no problem with the penalty or the hearing... I'd be surprised if he gets a game (given his OBVIOUS restraint while sitting on top of him and reading the riot act), but if he does, no biggie. It's worth it to send a message to a kid that his hits crossed the line.

A 2 minute penalty doesn't do anything unless you get scored on AND your coach benches you. A talking to with Lucic or any other known tough guy in the league... it has at least a chance of leaving an impact. That's why it's common practice, and that's why you won't hear guys in the league complaining about it one bit. I don't know Joseph enough to say, but if he has been "running around" in his young career, opponents in your division are probably sending Lucic thank you cards.
 

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First chance to get him back is fine; the way he went about it is questionable though.

I don't see him getting more than a game anyway (assuming he's even suspended) considering everyone came out unscathed. I'm also surprised Joseph didn't get anything f0r his hit... easy two for boarding every single time.

Hunting him down is what will probably get Lucic a game or two, you’re right if he’d happened to be on the ice when the hit happened this all blows over... but Joseph decided he didn’t want to answer the bell. The old school guys don’t like or appreciate that. I would actually imagine a vet or two in the Tampa room will pull him aside and chat with him over the next couple of days.
 

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Hunting him down is what will probably get Lucic a game or two, you’re right if he’d happened to be on the ice when the hit happened this all blows over... but Joseph decided he didn’t want to answer the bell. The old school guys don’t like or appreciate that. I would actually imagine a vet or two in the Tampa room will pull him aside and chat with him over the next couple of days.
This was stupid on lucics part I can't believe he would cheap shot him with out puck, then sit on him hit him repeatedly the shove his face into the ice. He is three times that kids size. Just bullshit if you ask me
 

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Hunting him down is what will probably get Lucic a game or two, you’re right if he’d happened to be on the ice when the hit happened this all blows over... but Joseph decided he didn’t want to answer the bell. The old school guys don’t like or appreciate that. I would actually imagine a vet or two in the Tampa room will pull him aside and chat with him over the next couple of days.

What vets in the Tampa locker room? Lol.

The whole team's a bunch of slimy weasels who run behind the referees. Stamkos practically has a bluetooth headset with the ref on any given game. Never seen a guy whine so much.
 

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Keep winning those important battles, Edmonton

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In a thread about Lucic being suspended, you’re going down the dick measuring route.

Who. f***ing. Cares. We know your team is better, congrats. Maybe one day they’ll actually win something instead of choking in conference finals.
 
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Joseph wasn’t even penalized and that was his second suspect hit of the game (first one was also not penalized). If the officials aren’t going to do their jobs, the players will. That’s what led to enforcers in the first place.

You’re not wrong. Seems Lucic may have not been so out of line. When did each of Joseph’s hits happen. I’d like to go find them in NHLtv.
 
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