Value of: Lucic to Anaheim
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Number1RedWingsFan52
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Yeah i possibly could see him in LA rather than in Anaheim myself, Very good looking team on their way up.
Number1RedWingsFan52
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True, It's not like many contenders could afford his cap hit, And Anaheim with their $40,000,000 in cap space could fit him nice and comfortably.
Ledge And Dairy
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Scintillating10
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Flip side is, if he's made his money and is only getting paid under $1 mil, he's really not losing much relative to how much he's worth. There are worse places to live than So Cal for a little while, then possibly get moved at the deadline.
I'm not at all high on Valimaki but I'm not adding anything to move Lucic. I think he has actual trade value. His money owed is 875k after his bonus is paid. I think a GM would give him 2M easily as a UFA, potentially more. Why would we add to move him?
I'd add to move Monahan, but Seravelli said there is lots of interest in him. Surprising to me even given the shortage of centers.
I'd add to move Monahan, but Seravelli said there is lots of interest in him. Surprising to me even given the shortage of centers.
mouser
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Buyout to Arizona or any other team doesn't work as that team would have to pay Lucic's $3m signing bonus plus 2/3rds of his $1m salary.
Total of $3.67m in real cash.
That's 1st round pick territory worth of value.
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mouser
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That's all fine and dandy.
However the only team that can buyout Lucic after his signing bonus is paid is the team that pays the signing bonus.
Calgary can't pay the signing bonus and afterward trade Lucic to a different team who then buys him out.
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jellybeans
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His salary next year is 4m
| SEASON | CLAUSE | CAP HIT
| AAV
| P. BONUSES
| S. BONUSES
| BASE SALARY
| TOTAL SALARY
| MINORS SAL
|
| 2016-17 | NMC | $6,000,000 | $6,000,000 | $0 | $4,000,000 | $4,000,000 | $8,000,000 | $8,000,000 |
| 2017-18 | NMC | $6,000,000 | $6,000,000 | $0 | $4,000,000 | $4,000,000 | $8,000,000 | $8,000,000 |
| 2018-19 | NMC | $6,000,000 | $6,000,000 | $0 | $3,500,000 | $3,500,000 | $7,000,000 | $7,000,000 |
| 2019-20 | NMC | $6,000,000 | $6,000,000 | $0 | $3,000,000 | $3,000,000 | $6,000,000 | $6,000,000 |
| 2020-21 | NMC | $6,000,000 | $6,000,000 | $0 | $3,000,000 | $1,000,000 | $4,000,000 | $4,000,000 |
| 2021-22 | M-NTC, NMC | $6,000,000 | $6,000,000 | $0 | $2,500,000 | $2,500,000 | $5,000,000 | $5,000,000 |
| 2022-23 | M-NTC, NMC | $6,000,000 | $6,000,000 | $0 | $3,000,000 | $1,000,000 | $4,000,000 | $4,000,000 |
| TOTAL | $42,000,000 | $42,000,000 | $0 | $23,000,000 | $19,000,000 | $42,000,000 | $42,000,000 |
Jumptheshark
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Slight correction on your math
His salary is 4 mill. 1 mill base with 3 mill signing bonus due on August 1st I think(not sure if is July or August 1)
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He sounds like an Arizona special after he gets paid his signing bonus
Ledge And Dairy
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3M of that 4M is paid on July 1st and then there os the retention from Edmonton as well. So after July 1st Lucic is only owed 1M total for the entire season, and 875k from the team that he is playing forHis salary next year is 4m
SEASON CLAUSE CAP HIT AAV P. BONUSES S. BONUSES BASE SALARY TOTAL SALARY MINORS SAL 2016-17 NMC $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $0 $4,000,000 $4,000,000 $8,000,000 $8,000,000 2017-18 NMC $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $0 $4,000,000 $4,000,000 $8,000,000 $8,000,000 2018-19 NMC $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $0 $3,500,000 $3,500,000 $7,000,000 $7,000,000 2019-20 NMC $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $0 $3,000,000 $3,000,000 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 2020-21 NMC $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $0 $3,000,000 $1,000,000 $4,000,000 $4,000,000 2021-22 M-NTC, NMC $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $0 $2,500,000 $2,500,000 $5,000,000 $5,000,000 2022-23 M-NTC, NMC $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $0 $3,000,000 $1,000,000 $4,000,000 $4,000,000 TOTAL $42,000,000 $42,000,000 $0 $23,000,000 $19,000,000 $42,000,000 $42,000,000
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I mean lucic makes sense for Anaheim
- Short term
- little real money
- higher cap(we’re not going to be near cap so doesn’t bother us much
- should be able to pick up an asset to take him
- heavy weight that can help protect young team
Biggest thing on the value is how many teams want him, and how much cap space is worth…. Which will be dictated by how much interest in lucic + his ntc
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Ledge And Dairy
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Not arguing Anaheim's interest. Was just correcting the statement on how much he is owed in actual money
It's 875K after his bonus is paid out on July 1.His salary next year is 4m
SEASON CLAUSE CAP HIT AAV P. BONUSES S. BONUSES BASE SALARY TOTAL SALARY MINORS SAL 2016-17 NMC $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $0 $4,000,000 $4,000,000 $8,000,000 $8,000,000 2017-18 NMC $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $0 $4,000,000 $4,000,000 $8,000,000 $8,000,000 2018-19 NMC $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $0 $3,500,000 $3,500,000 $7,000,000 $7,000,000 2019-20 NMC $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $0 $3,000,000 $3,000,000 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 2020-21 NMC $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $0 $3,000,000 $1,000,000 $4,000,000 $4,000,000 2021-22 M-NTC, NMC $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $0 $2,500,000 $2,500,000 $5,000,000 $5,000,000 2022-23 M-NTC, NMC $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $0 $3,000,000 $1,000,000 $4,000,000 $4,000,000 TOTAL $42,000,000 $42,000,000 $0 $23,000,000 $19,000,000 $42,000,000 $42,000,000
McShogun99
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Lucic would be a good addition to a rebuilding team with cap space to spare. He'll add some toughness and veteran presence to the lineup. That being said, no one is trading for him unless Calgary sweetens the deal.
Lucic. Calgary's 2022 1st for Anaheim's 2022 3rd.
Lucic. Calgary's 2022 1st for Anaheim's 2022 3rd.
mouser
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It's because of the timing:
Buyouts are done in June, signing bonuses can't be paid before July. There is a 2nd buyout window in August for teams that have salary arbitration, however they cannot buyout any player who wasn't on their roster since the trade deadline. So it's impossible for Team A to pay the signing bonus and then trade the player to Team B who buys him out that same season.**
**Note it doesn't matter that this 2021-22 season is extended into July. Buyouts will still be treated as if they had occurred in June.
I think you're wrong about that. I think we will get an asset (not a significant one) if he agrees to waive. 875K for what Lucic brings is a sweetheart deal if he agrees to waive for a budget team. He's probably a 2M player.
One thing to consider is, if Calgary is looking to not pay or get an asset back, Lucic probably won't be in the first tier/wave of cap dumps in the sense teams will look to get more assets for marginally useful players or pure cap dumps. Teams may circle back if they need to get to the cap floor or feel he's a fit for the team, but Calgary would have to be patient to get rid of him for positive value. Can the Flames afford to wait? Or will they have too many contracts they'd rather get done early? (Those are honest questions, I haven't been following Calgary, just know they need to free up money like basically every top team).
