Friedman: Lucic on the move?

[CycloneSweep]

I still remember when Oiler homers were calling us trolls for saying they signed Lucic to an albatross contract.

Thankfully most of them realize now that some non-Oiler fans do know more about the Oilers than some of the "experts" posting in this thread.

Most of us actually knew the contract wasn't great. We just didn't think it would look bad this early on.

 

[SupremeTeam16]

There is really no reason to trade Lucic unless they have another deal in place for an impact player and they absolutely need the cap space.

There's a good chance he will bounce back but if not they Oilers will have options. With the players likely to opt out of the current CBA in Sept. '19, we're looking at another lockout and cab re-negotiation and I can almost guarantee you that teams will get a compliance buyout in the new CBA. It's also possible that Lucic becomes an LTIR candidate, he's got diagnosed Scheuermanns (sp?) and backs can be tricky.

 

[Habsddicted]

No. It's a common misconception. Wizniewski's was still in effect after his trade to Carolina so they bought him out so they wouldn't have to protect him. Clarkson's was still in effect in CLB after the trade from Tor, so they had to protect him. Rick Nash's was still in effect after the trade to NYR so they had to protect him. Phaneuf's was still in effect after being traded to Ottawa and had to be protected, etc. etc.

The CBA states that a team has a choice to honor or not honor a NMC IF the NMC was not already in effect (ie....a guy is traded before his NMC kicks in). CapFriendly says that a team has a choice either way, but it doesn't say that anywhere in the CBA so I'm not sure that's right and it isn't consistent with the trades I mentioned above.

Thanks for the information, that is something I always tought the other way.

 

[Aceboogie]

He's been known for taking stretches off and frustrating fans, don't try to act like this is the 1st time you are hearing it, you've watched him in Edmonton.

For some the excuse was he's saving himself for playoffs, Lucic is built for playoffs hockey.

To bad he forgot to show up for the playoffs last year

 

[GoldenSeal]

Lucic is tough as hell. Doesn't score as many goals as he is used to but doesn't let other teams bully the players, which I feel gave the Oilers a real advantage. Contract-wise, he's not worth it, but he is worth every penny in the lockerroom. He's a guy that Vegas should take a look at, I think he'd fit right in.

 

[Hockeyholic]

Back to Boston for Lucic

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Lucic is tough as hell. Doesn't score as many goals as he is used to but doesn't let other teams bully the players, which I feel gave the Oilers a real advantage. Contract-wise, he's not worth it, but he is worth every penny in the lockerroom. He's a guy that Vegas should take a look at, I think he'd fit right in.

McKenzie, Friedman and Dreger have all said there’s some interest in Lucic league wide - I honestly think he’s got more value than people think.

I can think of half a dozen teams with contract space and a reason to pick him up.

 

[GoldenSeal]

McKenzie, Friedman and Dreger have all said there’s some interest in Lucic league wide - I honestly think he’s got more value than people think.

I can think of half a dozen teams with contract space and a reason to pick him up.

I feel the same way but cautiously optimistic. I think Lucic is fantastic and a must-have for a team.

 

[Paladin2799]

Is Nurse a RHD?

I'd try to work a deal around Zaitsev+ for Lucic(retained) and Nurse.

Obviously Toronto would need to add a significant piece, but lucic is a significant anchor.

 

[Aceboogie]

I feel the same way but cautiously optimistic. I think Lucic is fantastic and a must-have for a team.

Please talk to your team GMs and convince him of this

 

[WesMcCauley]

Guys don’t even look at Mcdavid the wrong way, nobody touches Nuge or Leon. Oilers will go back to being push overs without him. It was awful before he arrived.

 

[WesMcCauley]

Is Nurse a RHD?

I'd try to work a deal around Zaitsev+ for Lucic(retained) and Nurse.

Obviously Toronto would need to add a significant piece, but lucic is a significant anchor.

Nurse is a LHD

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Is Nurse a RHD?

I'd try to work a deal around Zaitsev+ for Lucic(retained) and Nurse.

Obviously Toronto would need to add a significant piece, but lucic is a significant anchor.

Nurse is a LD, and they arent using nurse to dump lucic's contract

 

[GoldenSeal]

If memory serves and do correct me if I'm wrong, two Pens and two Refs chain-link fenced Lucic and another B along the boards in the corner.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Is Nurse a RHD?

I'd try to work a deal around Zaitsev+ for Lucic(retained) and Nurse.

Obviously Toronto would need to add a significant piece, but lucic is a significant anchor.

He’s a LHD, and also not for sale - particularly not in a package with Zaitsev as the best piece.

I can see Lucic retained.
I can see Lucic packaged with an asset.
I can see Lucic bringing back a mediocre return.

I SINCERELY doubt a deal with Lucic combines all three. If it does then there’s just no point moving him at all.

 

[Negan4Coach]

Darling and a 2nd rounder for Lucic.

 

[AnInjuredJasonZucker]

If memory serves and do correct me if I'm wrong, two Pens and two Refs chain-link fenced Lucic and another B along the boards in the corner.

The point is, he wasn't a deterrent. Nor was he when Horton's career was effectively ended.

 

[GoldenSeal]

The point is, he wasn't a deterrent. Nor was he when Horton's career was effectively ended.

You're missing my point. It's hard to hit someone when you're pegged against a wall. Any NHL player who has the balls to do that kind of cowardly nonsense should not only be banned from the league, but be thrown in jail for life. It's unforgivable and should never be tolerated.

 

[Alex Jones]

One of the NHL's dinosaur GM's will think Lucic is still a good player and take a chance on him. You wouldn't think it would happen, but it will.

 

[Alex Jones]

You're missing my point. It's hard to hit someone when you're pegged against a wall. Any NHL player who has the balls to do that kind of cowardly nonsense should not only be banned from the league, but be thrown in jail for life. It's unforgivable and should never be tolerated.

You would think being a deterrent would extend past the exact moment that the hit takes places on the ice. Matt Cooke apparently wasn't afraid to face Lucic however many times he knew he would probably be facing him after that incident.

 

[OnanTheBarbarian]

Darling and a 2nd rounder for Lucic.

Kick in McGinn and I am all ears

 

[House of tpo]

why in the world would any team trade for lucic and that contract

 

[ottawa]

Just had a few hours of debate over this with a fellow Habs fan that I respect...

Patch+ for Lucic and the 10th pick+

I would do it but the other fan would not. How do you feel about it?

Not a chance...Patches alone could fetch a ~10th OA...why handicap that pick with a bad contract?

 

[TheBrew]

The point is, he wasn't a deterrent. Nor was he when Horton's career was effectively ended.

Mcdavid has missed ZERO games since Lucic has been a Oiler.

 

[ConnorMcNugesaitl]

Not a chance...Patches alone could fetch a ~10th OA...why handicap that pick with a bad contract?

Except he couldn't because Edmonton has no reason to trade that pick for Pacioretty.