Player Discussion Loui Eriksson, Pt. II
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Yep...last two night in Montreal and TO you had to check the program to ensure he actually played. Yet it is Goldy who gets singled out and benched.
I guess in Green's mind it doesn't really matter if you're being paid $6m a season to score goals and then put the same numbers as a fourth line grinder. As long you can 'check' I guess it's OK. Yikes!
It's pretty much buyout proof.
Buyout next year and it's 5.5, 5.5, 3.5, 550k 550k 550k.
That barely helps us.
Wait one more year and it's 5.5 3.5 550k 550k.
Again still bad. We're stuck with at least a 5.5MM cap hit for him for another two years unless we trade him and retain the full 50%.
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I think people tend to confuse ranking and value.
Eriksson's value is trash. He is worth nowhere near his salary. He hurts the team by costing us cap space and we would have to pay assets to move him.
His value plays no effect on his ranking in the lineup. He is in fact an NHL player. He is putting up like a 25-30pt pace which is pretty poor with his deployment, but again as a bottom 6er he would be fine if he got paid less. While obviously he doesn't get paid less, waiving him doesn't save much salary nor does sitting him in the press box. If Sutter got paid $9m it would be f***ing absurd but benching him wouldn't help us at all. What are we going to do, put $6M in the press box and slot Schaller in?
Decent player who gets paid significantly more than he is worth, but NHL level player nonetheless. His negative value to this team is completely unavoidable at this point, there is no move that relieves us of his salary without giving up other assets. If we're at a point where we're looking to compete we trade a pick to dump his salary to make space, but we aren't so we don't.
Eriksson's value is trash. He is worth nowhere near his salary. He hurts the team by costing us cap space and we would have to pay assets to move him.
His value plays no effect on his ranking in the lineup. He is in fact an NHL player. He is putting up like a 25-30pt pace which is pretty poor with his deployment, but again as a bottom 6er he would be fine if he got paid less. While obviously he doesn't get paid less, waiving him doesn't save much salary nor does sitting him in the press box. If Sutter got paid $9m it would be f***ing absurd but benching him wouldn't help us at all. What are we going to do, put $6M in the press box and slot Schaller in?
Decent player who gets paid significantly more than he is worth, but NHL level player nonetheless. His negative value to this team is completely unavoidable at this point, there is no move that relieves us of his salary without giving up other assets. If we're at a point where we're looking to compete we trade a pick to dump his salary to make space, but we aren't so we don't.
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Yes sure but if he strings more games together like the Leafs one they might as well send him to Utica
For a so called leader on this team he needs to be way more accountable and i say all this without factoring in that albatross contract.
For a so called leader on this team he needs to be way more accountable and i say all this without factoring in that albatross contract.
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Just listened to a Swedish interview with Loui. He praised living in Dallas and in Boston, but said he/they were still struggling with life in Vancouver.
He also said that he had to change the style he plays, which has been really difficult for him.
Sounds like he doesn't want to be in Vancouver at all.
He also said that he had to change the style he plays, which has been really difficult for him.
Sounds like he doesn't want to be in Vancouver at all.
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If he retired and went home after next season that would be ideal. The team can try to trade him after next year as well (modified NTC) but we'd definitely be retaining salary.
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Pretty adept at floating and his usual move on a rush is just to dump the puck into the corner and skate off....this might not be classified as lazy but has a real aversion to contact and his game more often than not lacks any intensity.
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When was this interview? I think Eriksson established some deep roots in Dallas before he went to Boston. Maybe Canada is too much of a cultural shock? You would think that with 4 kids, a house, and money, Vancouver would be an easy place to live in (besides the terrible traffic and parking).
As for change in style of play, is that more of a function of the way Green wants him to play? His deployment? Or simply due to his decline?
Of course, life can't be too easy for Eriksson here in Vancouver. When you are used to performing at a certain level and playing a certain role, it's hard to not be that. Just ask Lucic in Edmonton.
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I think the interview was very recent. He talked about his struggles and was very aware of them.
He didn't go into specifics regarding the change of style, but it kind of "felt" like it was forced. I still can't believe how he fell off a cliff so quickly....or perhaps Vancouvers style simple doesn't mech with the way he has to play in order to be successful?
In his prime, he was one if the best garbagemen out there, very hard worker, very good defensively, playing a very simple and intelligent style, which seemed to suit several high IQ linemates, both in the NHL and on the national team.
Didn't he do pretty good with Pettersson? Why not put them together? Why were they separated to begin with?
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EP is a franchise type of player. I think even Guds would look good playing a right winger on his line. Probably not the best use of having such a player on the team.
A Higgins type of winger (solid two-way player) turned a career/fluke season into a long-term 1st line forward type of contract. Tough to feel sorry for the guy as you have to know that kind of contract brings forth elevated type of expectations. And in the end, he'll get paid (and paid ALOT).
Canucks are ok against the cap until Pettersson begins his second contract. Which is the final year of the $12 million owing to Loui, Beagle, and Roussel. Eriksson in July prior to his final year gets his last signing bonus and is them owed $1 milllion in salary. That’s realistically when the Canucks get rid of him. To say Ott/Car/Az/NJ or whomever who wants to be $5 million closer to the floor but won’t have to spend that money.
So stuck with the guy for another 2 seasons.
I think the best course of action will be exposing Gudbranson/Eriksson/Sutter in the expansion draft and hopefully force Seattle to take a bad contract. Or hell, maybe we just pay them a pick to take on Eriksson if we're desperate.
Gudbranson and sutter each have expiring contracts when the ED rolls around in 2021.
Time will tell. Have to see how the younger players who would be eligible for the ED pan out over the next couple of seasons.
Juolevi, Briseboise, Chatfield would all be eligible. See who is still with the Canucks. Makes extending Edler for a 3rd year interesting as the Canucks should not be offering a nmc for waivers for a guy who would be 35 when the ED rolls around.
If the Canucks are only offering what they did for the Vegas ED, then maybe Seattle takes a draft pick instead of a player.
He didn't really fall off a cliff quickly. He's been trending down for years. The only really good year he's produced since his last year in Dallas was his contract year for the Bruins.
If you look at his goal numbers other than the contract year, he really hasn't fallen off that much. Last year in Dallas plus the first two in Boston he's was a 18-19 goal pace guy, in Vancouver more 14-15 goal. That's not drastic. Expecting the 31 year old to replicate the contract year is the issue.
Really he's fallen from a 0.6ppg player to a 0.4ppg player. That's fairly normal age related decline.
He was never an elite player, was never particularly fast and with the league trending high speed, he's basically caught where a lot of good but not elite veterans get caught.
Lucky for him he was able to secure himself a $36m contract based on an outlier season in what had been a pretty consistent degradation of play.
I see a similar downward trend in a guy like Wayne simmonds. High 50 to 60 point guy when the league was lower scoring but for the past 1.5 years he went down to mid 40’s and is tracking to hit 40 this year.
Be wary of term for him.
Have teams learned from the debacle of the ufa 2016 class? We shall see this summer. Have to lock down the right term.
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Eriksson is 5th in points in Vancouver, 3 points away from 4th.
Not a world-beater anymore, but not a complete disaster either.
Not a world-beater anymore, but not a complete disaster either.
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That says more about the quality of players Benning brought in once you get past Boeser, EP and Horvat.
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The league is just growing away from players like Eriksson and Gudbranson....Eriksson never was a speed burner and scored most of his goals from six feet out. And as far as so called d-men like Gudbranson, you can't hit what you can't catch.
The Eriksson signing may have some lasting, long term benefits. The next time Jimbo even thinks about offering a bloated contract and term to an 'over-30' player he'll flush his cell phone down the toilet. But then how you explain Beagle?
The Eriksson signing may have some lasting, long term benefits. The next time Jimbo even thinks about offering a bloated contract and term to an 'over-30' player he'll flush his cell phone down the toilet. But then how you explain Beagle?
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