Prospect Info: Lehigh Valley Phantoms (AHL), Reading Royals (ECHL), NCAA, Juniors, Int'l, etc.

[Striiker]

So he is MacDonald?
And Ghost is Streit.
And Morin is good Coburn(the one with the mean streak)
And Sanheim is Kimmo with size

So are they much better than what we have had the past 2 years?

You have zero clue how each of them will turn out so making these comparisons make no sense. If you're saying that's they're styles, then fine, but it seems like you're trying to say they'll end up as the same thing that we already have.

 

[Tripod]

You have zero clue how each of them will turn out so making these comparisons make no sense. If you're saying that's they're styles, then fine, but it seems like you're trying to say they'll end up as the same thing that we already have.

My point was that in SHORT TERM, they will be similar to what we have. But in PRIME, it could be a great defense.

Prime Kimmo with size is a great dman
Prime Coburn that is mean is a hellish guy to play against.
Prime Streit is a 50-60 point guy.
Prime MacD is a mid pairing guy who plays lots of minutes.
That's a great top 4.
I also just saw Meltzer's blog where a a Western scout compared Freidman to Carle.

If all the kids developed into those guys, we will be very lucky. But to expect it in 2 years when Coburn, a Schenn and Grossmann are UFA's and Kimmo is gone is unrealistic.

 

[Striiker]

My point was that in SHORT TERM, they will be similar to what we have. But in PRIME, it could be a great defense.

Prime Kimmo with size is a great dman
Prime Coburn that is mean is a hellish guy to play against.
Prime Streit is a 50-60 point guy.
Prime MacD is a mid pairing guy who plays lots of minutes.
That's a great top 4.
I also just saw Meltzer's blog where a a Western scout compared Freidman to Carle.

If all the kids developed into those guys, we will be very lucky. But to expect it in 2 years when Coburn, a Schenn and Grossmann are UFA's and Kimmo is gone is unrealistic.

I'd be happy with that short and long term. Short term we basically the same D for MUCH cheaper and long term we have much better D and it'd probably still be cheaper than the current crop. I think within 3 years all of those guys are on the team, unless there's trades. I just hope we can get at least on of them on the roster this year... both to save money and give them experience, plus I think it'd make our defense better as far as puck moving and skating is concerned.

 

[CS]

My point was that in SHORT TERM, they will be similar to what we have. But in PRIME, it could be a great defense.

Prime Kimmo with size is a great dman
Prime Coburn that is mean is a hellish guy to play against.
Prime Streit is a 50-60 point guy.
Prime MacD is a mid pairing guy who plays lots of minutes.
That's a great top 4.
I also just saw Meltzer's blog where a a Western scout compared Freidman to Carle.

If all the kids developed into those guys, we will be very lucky. But to expect it in 2 years when Coburn, a Schenn and Grossmann are UFA's and Kimmo is gone is unrealistic.

Prime Kimmo with size is a top 5 defenseman. When we got him, Timonen was top 15 or possibly even a top 10 defenseman. That was his best, but adding size is deadly.

Prime Coburn with a mean streak is...well playoff Coburn. Playoff Coburn is a beast. We've all seen how he plays Pittsburgh.

Prime Streit is a top 15 defenseman and in the running for the top offensive defenseman in the league.

Prime MacDonald is a steady two-way defenseman who can log heavy minutes on the back-end, play the first pass well, and help out offensively.

If that is our top 4 in 5-6 years time, we have an elite defense, not just a good or great one.

 

[Prongo]

Coburn with offense is a #1 defender in this league. Even if he isn't physical a guy who plays 23 minutes a night and puts up 40 points or more is perfect in my book. That's a stud right there. Of course I want Sanheim to be more physical but Morin is already there with that so we don't have to worry so much about our defense being soft.

Just want to say I hate comparisons too. Hopefully in 5 years people are comparing new draftees with our defense!

 

[Striiker]

I know it's not that easy, but with all the defensive prospects we have and the way they all have SO MUCH potential, I have to think at least one of them ends up a #1. Morin, Ghost, and Sanheim have the potential to be amazing, hopefully one of the puts it all together, the good news is that the team is clearly dedicated to taking their time with them and doing it right.

 

[Tripod]

I know it's not that easy, but with all the defensive prospects we have and the way they all have SO MUCH potential, I have to think at least one of them ends up a #1. Morin, Ghost, and Sanheim have the potential to be amazing, hopefully one of the puts it all together, the good news is that the team is clearly dedicated to taking their time with them and doing it right.

Yup. And Hextall certainly doesn't sound like he wants to rush anyone. Let them develop and hopefully have an impact when they do arrive as opposed to just filling a roster spot because we have no one else.

 

[TheKingPin]

Coburn with offense is a #1 defender in this league. Even if he isn't physical a guy who plays 23 minutes a night and puts up 40 points or more is perfect in my book. That's a stud right there. Of course I want Sanheim to be more physical but Morin is already there with that so we don't have to worry so much about our defense being soft.

Just want to say I hate comparisons too. Hopefully in 5 years people are comparing new draftees with our defense!

I'm annoyed by coburn. And that hit a peak in the last playoff game. The guy just isn't good enough. He should be a #4 guy. I'd like to trade him for another cheaper piece. I think hextall would like to straighten out this **** D but is stuck with certain things until our prospects come up. Hoping ghost alt and Hagg are ready to go by mid late next season!

 

[Prongo]

Flyers next draft pick right here....

http://www.attackhockey.com/article/big-signing-for-attack

 

[mja]

I'm annoyed by coburn. And that hit a peak in the last playoff game. The guy just isn't good enough. He should be a #4 guy. I'd like to trade him for another cheaper piece. I think hextall would like to straighten out this **** D but is stuck with certain things until our prospects come up. Hoping ghost alt and Hagg are ready to go by mid late next season!

Coburn's a 2/3 on nearly every team in the league. There are very few teams where he'd be the 4.

 

[Curufinwe]

Are these all the Junior teams we want to keep track of this season?

Morin - Rimouski (QJMHL)
http://www.oceanic.qc.ca/

Sanheim and Fazleev- Calgary Hitmen (WHL)
http://www.hitmenhockey.com/

Aube-Kubel - Val-d'Or (QJMHL)
http://www.foreurs.qc.ca/

Goulbourne - Kelowna (WHL)
http://www.kelownarockets.com/


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[Tripod]

Are these all the Junior teams we want to keep track of this season?

Morin - Rimouski
http://www.oceanic.qc.ca/

Sanheim - Calgary Hitmen
http://www.hitmenhockey.com/

Aube-Kubel - Val-d'Or
http://www.foreurs.qc.ca/

Calgary also has the Russian dude we just drafted.

 

[Coffe]

Are these all the Junior teams we want to keep track of this season?

Morin - Rimouski
http://www.oceanic.qc.ca/

Sanheim - Calgary Hitmen
http://www.hitmenhockey.com/

Aube-Kubel - Val-d'Or
http://www.foreurs.qc.ca/

Will Goulbourne play for Kelowna or is he too old?

 

[Rick Deckard]

Will Goulbourne play for Kelowna or is he too old?

He can play another season in the WHL but I don't expect it. I think he will sign an AHL-only deal with the Phantoms like McGinn did for his first pro season.

 

[Rick Deckard]

College Teams:

Terrance Amorosa - Freshman
Providence Friars

David Drake - Freshman
UConn Huskies

Mark Friedman - Freshman
Bowling Green Falcons

Nick Luukko - Senior
Vermont Catamounts

Merrick Madsen - Freshman
Harvard Crimson

Michael Parks - Senior
North Dakota Hockey

Petr Placek - Senior
Harvard Crimson

Reece Willcox - Junior
Cornell Big Red

 

[Striiker]

Frank Seravalli ‏@DNFlyers 7m
#Flyers have qualified Akeson, McGinn, Manning and Gustafsson. That means they will hold Gustafsson's rights if returns from KHL.

David Strehle ‏@DStrehleTFP 7m
Sound like they've not sent offers to Cal Heeter, Kyle Flanagan, Tyler Brown, M A Bourdon, Cullen Eddy, & Tyler Hostetter. All will be UFAs

I'm happy Akeson will stay, don't really care about the losses, and I'm kinda annoyed that McGinn is gonna stay because that means I'm gonna have to hear people want him on the roster and see him get called up over more deserving people....

 

[RJ8812*]

I'm happy Akeson will stay, don't really care about the losses, and I'm kinda annoyed that McGinn is gonna stay because that means I'm gonna have to hear people want him on the roster and see him get called up over more deserving people....

I just checked the comment on the Flyers FB page

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

I'm happy Akeson will stay, don't really care about the losses, and I'm kinda annoyed that McGinn is gonna stay because that means I'm gonna have to hear people want him on the roster and see him get called up over more deserving people....

I doubt it happens but if McGinn can refined his game pre-Mike Brown breaking his face than he's not a bad player. It certainly doesn't hurt to retain him at this juncture however I do think he's down to his last chance here to prove something.

Pretty much all those guys are down to their last chance for that matter even Akeson since I doubt he clears waivers.

 

[Alchemy]

McGinn just doesn't stand out to me. He's supposed to be a powerforward but ain't good along the walls. The only thing he does well is be at the right place and time for an easy tap in rebound.

 

[Striiker]

I just checked the comment on the Flyers FB page

Not sure what comment you're referring to, I wouldn't go to the Flyers FB page if my life depended on it... that's just minefield of stupid.

 

[TheKingPin]

Have any other teams had this many d prospects with promise but no big time stud? I want to see where we will be in few years. No way all of them workout

 

[Stizzle]

I just saw this reported... Lindblom and Hagg will be at the u20 Lake Placid summer deal for Sweden. Fazleev will be there for Russia.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Have any other teams had this many d prospects with promise but no big time stud? I want to see where we will be in few years. No way all of them workout

Buffalo has Ristolanien, Zadorov, McCabe, & Pysk. New York (I) has Reinhart, Pulock, Pokka, Pelech, & Mayfield. Edmonton has Nurse, Marincin, Klefbom, Musil, & Gernat. Unless I'm missing someone else the Flyers along with these three teams have the best defensive prospects in the league.

 

[mja]

Have any other teams had this many d prospects with promise but no big time stud? I want to see where we will be in few years. No way all of them workout

Chicago, with Keith, Seabrook, & Hjalmarsson? Is that what you mean? They did have Campbell though. Nashville with Weber, Suter, Hamhuis, etc. is another, though they had Timonen.

 

[Ryker]

I'm happy Akeson will stay, don't really care about the losses, and I'm kinda annoyed that McGinn is gonna stay because that means I'm gonna have to hear people want him on the roster and see him get called up over more deserving people....

Same here. Happy for Akeson and annoyed by McGinn. Also very glad Bourdon will not be qualified.